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DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
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Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas "deprogram" the latest domestic and international news and trends so you can see through the spin in the headlines to the raw truth you need to know.

Ted's immersion in the media—prize-winning cartoonist and columnist, radio host, editor at Forbes and United Media, and the veteran of bruising First Amendment legal battles—informs an... more

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• Israeli settler-terrorists attacked and fired at two Agence France-Presse journalists as they were reporting on settler violence against Palestinian olive farmers in the West Bank. Photographers Jaafar Ashtiyeh and John Wessels were taking pictures... more

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET.

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• As the Gaza War begins its fourth year, Israel has lost. Israelis are reeling from ne... more

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET.

Today we discuss:

• Trump said the U.S. is willing to help Russia after the State Department announced it... more

Conflict reporter/writer/cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM ET.

Today we discuss:

• Polls predict a major defeat for Republicans as voters angry about the economy prepar... more

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Recent Guests

Benjamin Moser
Author of Anti-Zionism, A Jewish History
Author of Anti-Zionism, A Jewish History
Episode: Anti-Zionism: A Jewish History (Interview with Benjamin Moser) | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Kash Patel
Former government official discussed on the show
Episode: Trump Sends $2.8 Billion More to Israel | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Sonali Kolhatkar
Author of Breaking Ice, anti-ICE activist
Author, Breaking Ice
Episode: 9/11: Did We Have It Coming? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Greg Palast
Investigative journalist and author, expert on election interference
Palast Vestigative Fund; gregpalast.com
Episode: Midterm Election Mania | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Robby West
Guest sitting in for Jamarl Thomas
DeProgram audience member turned host substitute
Episode: What Is Tucker Up To? | DeProgram with Jamarl Thomas and Robby West
Elijah Magnier
Veteran war correspondent and political analyst
Independent journalist
Episode: New Ship to Relieve Troubled USS Abraham Lincoln | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Karen Kwiatkowski
Retired U.S. Air Force Lieutenant Colonel; geopolitical analyst and former Pentagon officer
Karen Kwiatkowski / Former Pentagon analyst
Episode: Desperate US Sailors Leaping Overboard at Sea | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Chris Helali
American investigative journalist, geopolitical analyst, researcher and elected official
Episode: How Iran Brought the US to a Stalemate | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Mohammad Marandi
Professor of political science, University of Tehran
University of Tehran
Episode: Iran War: Deal or No Deal? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Hosts

Ted Rall
Editor cartoonist and host, presenting analysis with media critique and provocative takes.
Jamarl Thomas
Political analyst and co-host, brings international perspective and humanist angle to discussions.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 143 ratings
  • Great Podcast

    It’s honestly a great show, Ted and Jamarl are great, I like to hear Robbies opinions on things as well. I listen to this podcast in the mornings on my way to work Monday-Friday, much love from Cali!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Gen Z viewer
    United States4 months ago
  • 5 minutes of cheesy music in the intro then a commercial in less than 2 minutes of talking. And like so many that use ad services that suck because they drop ads in the middle of words or sentences. If you're to lazy to give them timestamps go get a real job.

    Podcast Addict
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    cj67
    4 months ago
  • Re: Is the Left Picking On Israel?

    I’m convinced this could have been a more robust & interesting conversation with a guest like Aimen Dean. He manages to present a realist perspective that is against Netanyahu & the far right “kooks” in power while also against the boilerplate party line of Western “left,” and as nuanced as you’d expect from an Al Qaeda member turned MI6 agent turned “information broker” … Plus, he’s adorable, and if you let him, he might even sprinkle in sick dad jokes!

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Rosa Schlupfer
    Canada5 months ago
  • Who is Rumble?

    “Major Investors: Significant investment has come from Narya Capital (co-founded by JD Vance with Peter Thiel's assistance).” I’m out.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    mardawdo
    United States6 months ago
  • Sad libs whining incessantly

    Weak men with poor opinions. Sad hypocrites.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Chris Mottola
    United States6 months ago

Listeners Say

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Some listeners want fewer interruptions and more balanced dialogue, especially around guests.
Listeners value the blunt, unapologetic breakdown of complex topics.
Critics note strong biases and occasional off-color humor, but many say it sparks thought-provoking dialogue.
Fans appreciate the live, conversational energy and data-driven critique.
Guests and topics that challenge mainstream narratives are particularly appealing to sponsors.

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#222
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#234
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Anti-Zionism: A Jewish History (Interview with Benjamin Moser) | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Q: Do you want to elaborate on that a little bit?
Ben explains how American and global audiences understand Zionism, highlighting the complexities of anti-Semitism, nationalism, and the way Zionist arguments have evolved over time in response to external pressures and internal debates.
Should You Should You Fight for Love? | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Q: What's the topic of the episode as a whole?
The hosts describe a blend of relationship dynamics and current events, discussing how personal commitments intersect with broader political and social issues.
Breaking ICE / Interview with Sonali Kolhatkar | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas
Q: Do you believe that countries have borders or should have borders?
Borders are legal distinctions, but their power should be exercised with humility and humanity, ensuring people aren't dehumanized and that immigration pathways are navigable.
What Is Tucker Up To? | DeProgram with Jamarl Thomas and Robby West
Q: What is Tucker Carlson's political project and can it resist co-option by the GOP or be independent?
The guest explains Tucker aims to build a movement that transcends traditional parties by incorporating populist voices from both sides and stressing local organizing; success against co-option hinges on bringing in diverse perspectives and focusing on local issues rather than a single party identity.
Why Capitalism and Democracy Don't Mix | DeProgram with Jamarl Thomas and Robby West
Q: First one is my faves. What type of economy is compatible with democracy? What type of government is compatible with capitalism?
The discussion centers on the incompatibility: socialist-style, people-led governance is argued to be more compatible with democracy than a system where massive private wealth dominates political outcomes, suggesting that without checks on wealth, “one dollar, one vote” tilts democracy away from the people.

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Frequently Asked Questions About DeProgram

What is DeProgram about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Two longtime political commentators offer fast-paced, opinionated analyses of domestic and international headlines, with a heavy focus on geopolitics, U.S. foreign policy, media narratives, and civil-liberties debates. Discussions are blunt, provocative, and often humorous, mixing data-driven critique with personal anecdotes to challenge mainstream viewpoints and examine power dynamics, misinformation, and accountability across current events. A signature strength is the dynamic banter between hosts, including live audience interaction, that creates a late-night talk vibe while tackling complex topics from Israel-Palestine to Iran, energy policy, immigration, and national security. The show stands out for its unapologetic stance, willingnes... more

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1. Benjamin Moser
2. Kash Patel
3. Sonali Kolhatkar
4. Greg Palast
5. Robby West
6. Elijah Magnier
7. Karen Kwiatkowski
8. Chris Helali

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