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China
Nuclear Power
Climate Change
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Renewable Energy
Decarbonization
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Canada
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There are technologies that decouple human well-being from its ecological impacts. There are politics that enable these technologies. Join me as I interview world experts to uncover hope in this time of planetary crisis.

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How did a tiny, impoverished country whose principal exports included Jaffa oranges become the world's sixth nuclear power? Nuclear historian Avner Cohen, author of Israel and the Bomb and The Worst-Kept Secret, joins Decouple to tell the extraordina... more

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The Canada-US trade war is escalating, threatening to unravel decades of economic integration between two of the world's closest allies. Chris Keefer is joined by returning guest Jesse Hoops to examine how we got here, what Washington hopes to achiev... more

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Canada is once again attempting to build nuclear megaprojects after a long pause, making the experience of people who have actually delivered recent large industrial projects increasingly valuable.

Ian McGregor is a veteran Alberta engineer, entrep... more

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Fusion has spent nearly a century as the energy source of the future. In this episode, I’m joined by fusion scientist Gerrit Bruhaug to ask what has actually been achieved, what remains unsolved, and why progress has taken so much longer than the ear... more

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Ian MacGregor
A veteran Alberta engineer, entrepreneur, and industrial project developer
Independent engineer and project leader behind the Northwest Upgrading Sturgeon Refinery
Episode: Megaprojects: Some Assembly Required w/ Ian MacGregor
Gerrit Bruhaug
Fusion scientist with background at University of Rochester and Los Alamos National Laboratory; now involved in private fusion industry
Private fusion industry; former Los Alamos National Laboratory; University of Rochester
Episode: The State of Fusion Energy w/ Gerrit Bruhaug
Farzan Sabet
Historian and Iran specialist at the Geneva Graduate Institute
Geneva Graduate Institute
Episode: Sunk Costs & Diminishing Returns of Iran's Nuclear Program w/ Farzan Sabet
Mark Nelson
Guest expert on energy and deforestation
Episode: Biomass Masterclass w/ Mark Nelson
Ernie Moniz
Former U.S. Secretary of Energy; CEO, Energy Futures Initiative; lead technical negotiator of the JCPOA
Energy Futures Initiative
Episode: Ernie Moniz: Reflections on the JCPOA
Michael Seely
Avid nuclear finance expert, nicknamed The Atomic Blender
The Atomic Blender
Episode: Fission Impossible? Financing New Nuclear w/ Michael Seely
Navid Badie
Chief Nuclear Engineer
Candu Energy Inc (Atkins Realis)
Episode: CANDU: The Truly Modular Reactor w/ Navid Badie
James Krellenstein
Nuclear policy expert and returning guest
Episode: The Birth of America’s Nuclear Power Industry
David Helmer
AI risk and policy expert with experience advising on nuclear and aerospace sectors
Independent consultant / AI policy advisor
Episode: Limits to Growth of LLMs w/ David Helmer

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Chris
Host guiding the discussion and interview flow across episodes.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 625 ratings
  • Fear the forest?!

    I don’t agree that humans feared the forest for most of our history. Cite the evidence Mr. Nelson.

    Challenge claims made with no evidence Chris.

    I think ancient humans understood and navigated nature superbly well with minimal fears.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    WilderLander
    United States3 months ago
  • Love the history lesson, but quit saying "right" in every other sentence.

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    markyparky
    4 months ago
  • Extra positive

    You should learn about the genetic bottleneck phenomenon, quite easy to drive extinct. We are deliver actual WWE backbreakers to life everyday. Cheetah’s would be done in short order if they dropped to 0.3%. The Cheetah’s niche may get refilled over time.

    Great positivity for nature’s resilience, but animals and plants are actually quite fragile. We’ve destroyed most of it in not very long compared to the scales you like consider.

    Stay positive, but try to empathize or walk-a-mile in the shoes ... more

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    5
    WilderLead
    United Statesa year ago
  • Very Guest Dependent

    So while I’m giving it three stars, it’s more like a middle point between 5 and 2. James Krellenstein’s episodes are amazing, for example, but many episodes can fall into nuclear advocacy traps, such as excessive hippie punching. Hence, this is a series which can be great, but is very uneven.

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    Factor96
    United Statesa year ago
  • Brilliant episode.thanks for your ongoing excellent podcasts🙏

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    billodea
    a year ago

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Balanced deep dives with strong guests and practical insights for decision-makers
High technical quality and thoughtful critique of energy narratives across episodes
Some listeners feel episodes can be very nuclear-centric, leaning heavy on industry perspectives

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The Canada-US Trade War: A Bridge Too Far? w/ Jesse Huebsch
Q: How do you see the Canada–U.S. trade relationship ending, and what would force a resolution?
Resolution hinges on political timing and inflation dynamics; if inflation becomes a crisis, there may be pressure to unwind tariffs, but typically any relief would require deliberate policy steps, not spontaneous market corrections.
Megaprojects: Some Assembly Required w/ Ian MacGregor
Q: What was the biggest surprise during the project?
The scale and integration of 7,000 pieces of equipment into 1,400 modules, plus the need to engineer while constructing—never finishing the engineering upfront
Fission Impossible? Financing New Nuclear w/ Michael Seely
Q: What changes did Sizewell C bring to the financing approach compared to Hinkley Point C?
Sizewell C uses a regulated asset base structure, allowing early charges to customers and a government-backed framework, reducing the need for the heavy construction risk borne solely by the operator and enabling broader private and public investment under a government-supported risk framework.
Fission Impossible? Financing New Nuclear w/ Michael Seely
Q: What are some of the main financing models used in Europe for nuclear projects?
Models range from government-backed sovereign or utility debt with guarantees to more market-based schemes like contracts-for-difference and, in the UK, regulated asset bases that allow charging customers during construction to de-risk private investment.
Fission Impossible? Financing New Nuclear w/ Michael Seely
Q: Why are nuclear plants challenging from a financing perspective?
Because they face two big risks—construction risk and long-term revenue (offtake) risk—and the cost of capital is highly sensitive to these risks, with long build times and delayed revenues rapidly inflating the total cost unless de-risked by guarantees or backstops.

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What is Decouple about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on energy, technology, and policy with a rigorous, data-driven approach to how energy systems evolve, who pays for them, and what practical constraints shape deployment. Across episodes, topics routinely circle nuclear power, fuel cycles, reactor technology, energy finance, and the geopolitics of supply chains, with deep dives into financing models, regulatory hurdles, and real-world case studies. A recurring strength is bringing highly technical guests and policy experts into focused conversations that balance historical context with forward-looking critique, often challenging mainstream narratives and offering pragmatic takeaways for practitioners, investors, and policymakers. A notable edge is the willingness to critique... more

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5. Ernie Moniz
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