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What Do You Mean By That?

Sara and Misasha
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Join multi-ethnic co-hosts Sara + Misasha - two wickedly smart, heart-led, long-distance best friends - as they help folks talk smarter and think deeper about the world around us. Whether it's about science, history, current events, social justice, or more, their community consists of people who want to be better humans, to benefit all of us. We won't let the fire hose of information overwhelm us.... more

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Vanessa Otero
Founder and CEO of Ad Fontes Media
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Episode: 14: Becoming Smarter News Consumers, with the founder of Ad Fontes Media, Home of the Media Bias Chart
Dr. Bill Doherty
Co-founder of Braver Angels and former faculty member of the University of Minnesota.
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Episode: 13: How to Have Difficult Conversations, featuring Dr. Bill Doherty, Co-founder of Braver Angels
Ruchika T. Malholtra
Author of Uncompete! Rejecting Competition to Unlock Success.
Episode: 12: Uncompete: The Case for Redefining Success, Together - with Ruchika Malhotra
Elie Mystal
Justice correspondent for The Nation Magazine
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Episode: 10: Elie Mystal on Bad Laws, Big Truths, and How to Change the System
Mita Mallick
Wall Street Journal and USA Today bestselling author, workplace strategist
The Devil Emails at Midnight
Episode: 09: The Devil Emails At Midnight, With Mita Mallick
Megan Imperial
Political insider from California with experience in local and statewide politics.
California Young Democrats
Episode: 06: How To Be a Better Democrat, with Megan Imperial
Jan-Emmanuel De Neve
Professor of Economics and Behavioral Science at the University of Oxford, and co-author of the World Happiness Report.
University of Oxford
Episode: 05: How We Can Build Trust In Times of Division, with Jan-Emmanuel de Neve
Colin Seale
Founder of Think Law and critical thinking expert
Think Law
Episode: 04: How to improve your critical thinking skills, with Colin Seale
Dr. Kelli Harding
Physician, psychiatrist, and author of The Rabbit Effect
Columbia University
Episode: 03: How to be Kinder (not Nicer), with Dr. Kelli Harding

Hosts

Sara Blanchard
Co-host and creator of the podcast, she facilitates discussions on culture and identity.
Misasha Barden
Co-host and creator of the podcast, she engages with diversity and mental health topics.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 165 ratings
  • Union Strong, Union Proud listener

    The latest episode on Unions was a fantastic episode diving into the history and importance of Unions across many aspects of not just labor but the country as a whole. Dear White Women Podcast is on my weekly podcast listening and sharing hear two ladies never disappoint! Keep up the good work!

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    Corley795
    United States3 years ago
  • Jeez

    Stuff like this makes being a black person a lot harder.

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    tylerdamonwill
    United States3 years ago
  • Women’s Health

    Appreciate this podcast in general and LOVE this episode. Discussing all aspects of women’s health including menses is so overdue. Women have to claim this conversation and stop shaming ourselves and each other. Thank you!

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    V-Spain
    United States3 years ago
  • White feminist principles in shiny packaging.

    Weary of self aggrandizing neoliberalism. White presenting women applauding themselves…centering themselves…while teaching white women how not to do the same…? If all you talk about it “women” without acknowledging the nuance of our experience ((outside of your own individual experiences)) what are you really doing. Such a wide platform to perpetuate the problem. Cite black women, interview brown women, acknowledge nuance, if you don’t you’re the problem. Talking about identity without acknowled... more

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    allgoodusernamesweregone
    United States3 years ago
  • Racists

    I dont have to listen to this to know its racist garbage. Ironic they claim to be so anti racist

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    Cartersauce
    United States3 years ago

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17: New Year of Actions + Why Getting Names Right Matters
Q: Why do you think people are so hesitant to ask for help with names?
There is a societal pressure to seem independent and perfect, creating a fear of vulnerability or awkwardness when asking.
17: New Year of Actions + Why Getting Names Right Matters
Q: Why does mispronouncing or misspelling someone's name even unintentionally have an impact?
It can show a lack of care or interest in the person, suggesting they are not valued, and affects one's sense of identity.
17: New Year of Actions + Why Getting Names Right Matters
Q: What does a name actually carry or hold beyond just identifying someone?
A name signifies a person's sense of self, belonging, and cultural identity, impacting how they are perceived by others.
15: Raising Boys in an Age of Backlash: Soraya Chemaly on Power, Gender, and What Comes Next
Q: What practices do you have to sustain yourself right now?
Soraya emphasizes community, creativity, and the importance of hang time with people for mutual care and emotional health.
15: Raising Boys in an Age of Backlash: Soraya Chemaly on Power, Gender, and What Comes Next
Q: If you could see one major cultural shift in the next decade, what shift would you want to see?
Soraya would want young men to recognize that the anti-feminism they are accepting is a political manipulation and that this crisis is intertwined with a rejection of democratic norms.

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2. Dr. Bill Doherty
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5. Mita Mallick
6. Megan Imperial
7. Jan-Emmanuel De Neve
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