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Cross Party Lines

Cross Party Lines
New Zealand
New Zealand Politics
Donald Trump
Australia
Capital Gains Tax
New Zealand First
Immigration
Te Pāti Māori
Winston Peters
Infrastructure
United States
Kiwisaver
Local Government (new Zealand)
Climate Change Change Act / Climate Change Response Act
MMP
Christopher Luxon
Hungary
Population Demographics Of New Zealand
Labour Party
New Zealand Police

A weekly podcast about the political landscape in New Zealand and around the world. Proudly going beyond the headlines, looking at the structural challenges, challenging the status quo and explaining our place in the complex geopolitical stage. Hosted by Phil Goff and Chris Finlayson. crosspartylines.substack.com

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Hosted by Phil Goff and Chris Finlayson, Cross Party Lines returns — fresh off the stage at Featherston — for an episode that opens with a tribute to one of New Zealand’s greatest legal minds and moves through a week of elections, populist tremors an... more

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Hosted by Phil Goff and Chris Finlayson, this is a special bonus episode of Cross Party Lines — the live Q&A from the Featherston Booktown Festival, released separately so nothing from that remarkable afternoon gets left on the cutting room floor.

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Hosted by Phil Goff and Chris Finlayson, Cross Party Lines goes live for the first time — recorded on stage at the Featherston Booktown Festival, with Sam Collins moderating one final time before he heads to the campaign trail as Labour’s North Shore... more

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Hosted by Phil Goff and Chris Finlayson, Cross Party Lines returns with an episode that moves from a coalition-shaking email leak to the demographic time bomb nobody in government wants to defuse — and closes with a verdict on King Charles III’s Wash... more

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Rod Emerson
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Episode: Cabinet Demotions, Grand Coalitions and Rocket Science
Alfred Nio
Former National Party MP who joined New Zealand First
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Episode: Diesel, Debt and Democracy
Shane Jones
Politician on a guest appearance discussing immigration and populism
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Episode: Infrastructure, Brain Drains and Dog Whistles
Winston Peters
Former Foreign Minister
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Hosts

Phil Goff
Host of Cross Party Lines
Chris Finlayson
Co-host; Host of Cross Party Lines
Sam Collins
Host of Cross Party Lines

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 66 ratings
  • Solid.

    I don’t agree with everything entirely (as when everything), but it’s nice to different sides of the spectrum finding common ground. Pick and choose your episodes as both sides can go from 0 to 100 in a short space which gets rather intense for the listener. As a final note, just because someone opposes mass immigration doesn’t mean they don’t want immigrants - quality of quantity.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Lunaandhope56
    New Zealand4 months ago
  • Good as far as it goes

    In the roundup for 2025, the panel and moderator did not include the setbacks to pay equity in 2025. I wonder why that was?

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    GeorgianaNZ
    New Zealand5 months ago
  • Podcast find for 2025!

    Really enjoy listening to this podcast with two of AotearoaNZ’s knowledgeable former politicians who know what they’re talking about. Helps me to better understand the issues and also gives me an insight into politics of the past. I look forward to each episode. 10/10!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    NinjaKittyJak
    New Zealand5 months ago
  • Refreshing

    Hearing two politicians (albeit ex) engage in sensible, non-positional discussion on critical issues is refreshing and a welcome change to the usual attacking and posturing. As a longtime TRIP fan, applaud this addition to my weekly podcast listening. Keep it up!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    pusheencat008
    New Zealand6 months ago
  • Just one note

    Really loving the considered and informed conversations, but wholeheartedly agree the theme music needs to change …

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Rjcpjc
    New Zealand6 months ago

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Fans praise the show for civility and depth, especially on complex NZ issues.
Listeners appreciate balanced, evidence-driven discussion even when disagreements arise.
People value practical policy insights over punditry.
Guests and hosts are commended for clear, long-form conversations rather than soundbite-style debates.
Newcomers find the format approachable while serious about policy.

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#244
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#105
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Apple Podcasts
#5
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#16
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Question Time: Live from Booktown (Bonus)
Q: What reforms could help reduce populism and improve democracy?
Investing in civic education, exploring citizen assemblies, promoting participatory mechanisms, and ensuring transparency in party funding can help strengthen democratic legitimacy and reduce the appeal of simplistic populist narratives.
Question Time: Live from Booktown (Bonus)
Q: Is a grand coalition desirable in New Zealand, or should there be a strong two-party dynamic?
A grand coalition could risk sidelining broader public representation and create a vacuum in the opposition; a strong two-party system with robust, transparent governance and bipartisanship on key issues is better for continuity and accountability.
Question Time: Live from Booktown (Bonus)
Q: What are your thoughts on Hungary and its populist trend?
Hungary is a complicated case where a strong nationalist leadership was able to drive political change, but ultimately faced pushback and defeat in recent elections; this suggests that populism can be curbed with persistent democratic engagement, media scrutiny, and effective governance, even if the initial gains seem durable.
Cabinet Demotions, Grand Coalitions and Rocket Science
Q: How is Chris Bishop's new role viewed in terms of a demotion and what might Luxon's motivations be?
The panel suggests the reshuffle is a shift that frees Bishop for different duties, including the attorney general role, which is pivotal to governance, and that some interpret it as strategic posturing by Luxon rather than a punitive demotion.

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