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Continuous Agitation

Jay Fram and Bill Sawalich
Photography
Usage Licensing
Industry Changes In Photography
Pricing In Photography
Social Media
Content Creation
Portland
Licensing
Architecture Photography
Accounts Payable
AI In Photography
Permits and Location Permissions
Copyright and IP
Unlimited Usage
New York Times

Continuous Agitation is two working photographers with decades of experience still struggling to figure it out. Jay Fram and Bill Sawalich talk about what’s working, what isn’t, and what the hell is happening to the photo business.

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We’re on YouTube! Now you can see our big dumb faces:

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I thought we agreed that big photography jobs were dead.

And then a big ol' productio... more

How do you handle a good client who becomes difficult? We discuss slow payment, unexpected image use, and how good communication skills are your most valuable asset. Jay describes an annual report/image library shoot for a publicly traded company whe... more

This one’s a Part Two. If you haven’t listened to the last episode – “Let Them Eat Cake” – go do that first.

We pick up where we left off on the unlimited (sa)usage debate that started last episode, this time getting into the practical reality of ho... more

Is usage licensing dead? Not exactly. But the business it was built for doesn't really exist anymore. Print is all but gone. Social media now accounts for 80% (!) of ad spend in the US. Clients want the C word [rhymes with shmontent] by the dump truc... more

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Jay Fram
Host of Continuous Agitation; Photographer with decades of experience.
Bill Sawalich
Host of Continuous Agitation; Photographer with decades of experience.

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Apple Podcasts
#49
United States/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#72
Canada/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#71
Australia/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#130
Germany/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#26
Mexico/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#32
Switzerland/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#99
South Africa/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#116
Spain/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#126
New Zealand/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#158
Ireland/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#170
Norway/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#225
Switzerland/Arts

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Two veteran photographers share decades of real-world experience navigating the business of photography. Episodes center on practical challenges like client relations, licensing and usage rights, price structuring, and payments, often punctuated by candid war stories from shoots, bids, and negotiations. The conversations frequently tackle how technology, social media, and changing market expectations are reshaping value, with recurring threads on work-for-hire vs. rights, subscription or retainer models, and the tension between artistry and commerce. Notable topics include unlimited usage debates, AI's impact on authorship and value, and the evolving roles of magazines, content creators, and licenses in income stability for independent phot... more

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