
Making Design Circular is evolving. With a new name, a new remit, and a new co-host, this next chapter is all about one of the most urgent conversations in business today: how to talk about sustainability with honesty, nuance, and confidence. Katie Treggiden is joined by Malin Cunningham, founder of B Corp-certified B2B thought leadership consultancy Hattrick, to launch Spill the Green Tea – a pod... more
| Publishes | Twice monthly | Episodes | 59 | Founded | 6 years ago |
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| Number of Listeners | Categories | EntrepreneurshipBusinessMarketing | |||

After almost 20 years in the industry, she stepped away from that role to study for an MSc in Sustainability and Behaviour Change, wanting to understand what actually motivates people to change. She also sits on the Anti-Greenwash Charter's Advisory ... more
In this episode, Malin is joined by Paul Randle, who spent thirty years watching marketing — the most powerful behaviour-change tool ever invented — point in entirely the wrong direction, a realisation that first hit him and his now co-author Alexis ... more
In this episode, Katie and Malin record from the middle of the UK's second heatwave of the summer, with climate change dominating their feeds. Rather than add to the noise, they set out to do the opposite: share the good news stories they've gathered... more
This episode digs into why Ingmar thinks the comms and marketing industry is the most under-recruited force in the climate movement and what he wants them to do about it.
In this episode, we cover:
• Why the current climate narrative is failing an... more
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These podcast are great. Informative, easy to listen to. Lighthearted discussions about serious topics. Thank you for hosting your podcasts. Love them
Katie has given me these words to ponder and act upon in her very down to earth, practical and “light bulb” moment podcasts! She shares and practices being kind and gracious to ourselves as we as makers negotiate our lives, art and sustainability in a tricky climate.
Thank you so much for sharing your insights and wisdom as I take the next steps on new pathways!
What I really love about Katie’s podcast (and work) is that she helps me feel like my contribution is enough. Climate change and running a business as an artist both can feel so overwhelming but Katie has helped me to see that my own unique contribution can be enough.
This podcast is a great way to learn how to do that.
I have absolutely loved the episodes I’ve heard so far. Katie’s genuine passion for exploring different aspects of sustainability is so enjoyable to follow
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A thoughtfully paced show about communicating sustainability with honesty, nuance, and credibility. Episodes center on practical frameworks, real-world case studies, and the psychology of audience trust—focusing on how brands can discuss progress without fear of backlash or accusations of greenwashing. Regular conversations blend design, business, and sustainability expertise, often featuring practitioners who shape credible climate storytelling for B2B audiences. Standout aspects include a strong emphasis on transparency, layered messaging, and actionable tools for teams to communicate imperfect progress credibly while maintaining brand impact and leadership buy-in.
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