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Chaos and Creativity

Lou Lesko
Social Media
Los Angeles
Natalie Lennard
Birth Undisturbed
Creativity
Wildfires
Photography
Music Industry
Theater
Surreal Fashion
Artistic Identity
Sound Design
Music
Creative Supper Club
Creative Careers
Music Supervision
Porsche
Youtube
Creative Industries
AI In Art

Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries.

Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists.

Chaos and Creativity is produced by Cheramie Johnson and edited by Alexandra ... more

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes50Founded9 years ago
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Visual ArtsArtsFashion & Beauty

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It’s a classic Kimi and Lou episode of best laid plans. They start by talking about how professional creatives are now digital janitors to AI slop, then quickly get lost in the woods talking about Universal Basic Income, Phoebe Waller Bridge’s Flea B... more

I’ll admit to having a ridiculously pedestrian perception of classical music artists. Pianists specifically. Call it lack of direct exposure, or maybe too much Bugs Bunny when I was a kid. Or maybe, maybe, maybe it’s the awe I feel when I watch a pia... more

We’ve all been there. Stuck in traffic, running late, woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Caught a mood from somebody else. Barista didn’t quite get your morning coffee right. And what started as a crap moment begins to seem like a crap day, a crap... more

If you look at map of Los Angeles, you’ll see where I used to live on Kittyhawk Avenue is in close proximity the airport. There was a hide-a-key near the back door. If you knew me, or knew someone who knew me, you were welcome to stay— on the couch i... more

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Recent Guests

Dorothy Robbins
Concert pianist
Concert pianist
Episode: Dorothy Robbins: A State of Musical Being
Tom Myers
Sound designer at Skywalker Sound
Skywalker Sound
Episode: The Art of Sound, Part 2: - A World of Sound All in Your Head
Will Waterworth
Photographer
Self-employed / freelance photographer
Episode: Will Waterworth: Cinematic Photography & Storytelling
Annicka Ekvall
Swedish American DJ
Episode: Annicka Ekvall: Music, Connection & Becoming a Mom
Kieran Kerwin
Electronic musician and DJ
Episode: Kieran Kerwin: The Creative Process Behind Electronic Music
Michael Alan Ross
Photographer and author of 'Porsche Outlaws'
Episode: Michael Alan Ross: Porsche Outlaws
Jeff Burkhart
Bartender and writer known for humorous column and books.
Marin Independent Journal
Episode: Jeff Burkhart: From Twenty Years Behind Bars to Tale of a Barfly
Joe Ingham
Development executive for the BBC and showrunner in the US.
BBC
Episode: Joe Ingham: Behind the Scenes of Development
Natalie Lennard
An artist known for her unique photos depicting themes of birth and identity.
Episode: Natalie Lennard on Identity and Creation

Hosts

Kimi Recor
Host of Chaos and Creativity; musician and co-creator of the show; involved in music, photography, and storytelling.
Lou Lesko
Co-host and writer/director; participates in producing and shaping episodes.

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Apple Podcasts
#48
Singapore/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#137
Finland/Arts/Visual Arts

Talking Points

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The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: What is the daily or casual practice recommended for listening to music at home?
Create a simple, relaxed listening session—dim the lights, play an album from start to finish, and let the music guide the experience rather than treating it as precious or ceremonial.
The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: What is the recommended approach to subwoofers in a hi‑fi setup?
Tune the subwoofer so it remains unobtrusive; if you can hear it clearly, it's too loud, because the goal is to extend the space without drawing attention to the bass.
The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: What does Tarun suggest about system upgrades and budget?
He suggests not upgrading in bite-sized increments; instead, balance the system and invest where it matters most (often speakers and room acoustics) for the best overall improvement.
The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: How does Tarun describe the role of vinyl vs. digital in creating a listening experience?
Vinyl is valued for its narrative depth and engagement, encouraging slower, more complete listening, while digital offers crispness and convenience—both have their strengths depending on priorities.
The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: What is Tarun's approach to making Hi‑Fi accessible to more people?
Tarun emphasizes approachability, avoiding snobbery, and focusing on using what you already have with careful setup and sensitivity to what you actually value in sound.

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A conversational show that centers on the lives, work, and industry dynamics of outliers in the creative world. Across episodes, two hosts explore topics ranging from fair compensation and negotiating for value in creative work to hands-on craft like sound design, photography, music production, and storytelling. Guests and topics skew toward independent artists, photographers, musicians, directors, and writers, often weaving in practical career guidance, process tips, and candid reflections on balancing artistry with commercial realities. A standout trait is the duo's willingness to tackle uncomfortable trade-offs, gatekeeping, and the evolving media landscape, all with a collaborations-first ethos and a knack for sharing personal anecdotes... more

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1. Dorothy Robbins
2. Tom Myers
3. Will Waterworth
4. Annicka Ekvall
5. Kieran Kerwin
6. Michael Alan Ross
7. Jeff Burkhart
8. Joe Ingham

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