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Chaos and Creativity

Lou Lesko
Social Media
Los Angeles
Natalie Lennard
Birth Undisturbed
Creativity
Wildfires
Photography
Music Industry
Theater
Surreal Fashion
Artistic Identity
Sound Design
Music
Creative Supper Club
Creative Careers
Music Supervision
Porsche
Youtube
Creative Industries
Bartending

Musician Kimi Recor and writer/director Lou Lesko bring you conversations with the outliers and outlaws of the creative industries.

Twice a month Kimi and Lou discuss the creative industries through the lens of their experiences and interviews with independent musicians, filmmakers, photographers, writers, and artists.

Chaos and Creativity is produced by Cheramie Johnson and edited by Alexandra ... more

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes50Founded9 years ago
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Visual ArtsArtsFashion & Beauty

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In 1977 I was third in line for the first showing of Star Wars on its opening day at the Coronet theater in San Francisco. It was the first time I had ever seen people line up for a movie.

The atmosphere was incredible. A movie the studios anticipat... more

It’s a classic Kimi and Lou episode of best laid plans. They start by talking about how professional creatives are now digital janitors to AI slop, then quickly get lost in the woods talking about Universal Basic Income, Phoebe Waller Bridge’s Flea B... more

I’ll admit to having a ridiculously pedestrian perception of classical music artists. Pianists specifically. Call it lack of direct exposure, or maybe too much Bugs Bunny when I was a kid. Or maybe, maybe, maybe it’s the awe I feel when I watch a pia... more

We’ve all been there. Stuck in traffic, running late, woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Caught a mood from somebody else. Barista didn’t quite get your morning coffee right. And what started as a crap moment begins to seem like a crap day, a crap... more

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Recent Guests

Paul Fischer
Author of The Last Kings of Hollywood, The Man Who Invented Motion Pictures, and A Kim Jong-Il Production
Episode: Battling Hollywood to Save It: The One with Paul Fischer
Dorothy Robbins
Concert pianist
Concert pianist
Episode: Dorothy Robbins: A State of Musical Being
Tom Myers
Sound designer at Skywalker Sound
Skywalker Sound
Episode: The Art of Sound, Part 2: - A World of Sound All in Your Head
Will Waterworth
Photographer
Self-employed / freelance photographer
Episode: Will Waterworth: Cinematic Photography & Storytelling
Annicka Ekvall
Swedish American DJ
Episode: Annicka Ekvall: Music, Connection & Becoming a Mom
Kieran Kerwin
Electronic musician and DJ
Episode: Kieran Kerwin: The Creative Process Behind Electronic Music
Michael Alan Ross
Photographer and author of 'Porsche Outlaws'
Episode: Michael Alan Ross: Porsche Outlaws
Jeff Burkhart
Bartender and writer known for humorous column and books.
Marin Independent Journal
Episode: Jeff Burkhart: From Twenty Years Behind Bars to Tale of a Barfly
Joe Ingham
Development executive for the BBC and showrunner in the US.
BBC
Episode: Joe Ingham: Behind the Scenes of Development

Hosts

Kimi Recor
Host of Chaos and Creativity; musician and co-creator of the show; involved in music, photography, and storytelling.
Lou Lesko
Co-host and writer/director; participates in producing and shaping episodes.

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Apple Podcasts
#102
Singapore/Arts/Visual Arts
Apple Podcasts
#227
Finland/Arts/Visual Arts

Talking Points

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Battling Hollywood to Save It: The One with Paul Fischer
Q: How did you find that story?
Fischer discovered Louis Le Prince while reading a novel that described him as an early motion-picture inventor. He researched the claims, found evidence that Le Prince made an early film and held important camera and projector patents, and pursued the mystery of his disappearance and his family's suspicions about Thomas Edison.
Battling Hollywood to Save It: The One with Paul Fischer
Q: What inspired you to do this book? Why did you choose those directors?
Fischer wanted to offer a different account of the 1970s film industry than the familiar story of sex, drugs, and rock and roll. He focused on Lucas, Coppola, and Spielberg, whose careers and collaborative ambitions revealed how filmmakers challenged the studio system and gained creative and business control.
The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: What is the daily or casual practice recommended for listening to music at home?
Create a simple, relaxed listening session—dim the lights, play an album from start to finish, and let the music guide the experience rather than treating it as precious or ceremonial.
The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: What is the recommended approach to subwoofers in a hi‑fi setup?
Tune the subwoofer so it remains unobtrusive; if you can hear it clearly, it's too loud, because the goal is to extend the space without drawing attention to the bass.
The Art of Sound Part 3: Open Up Your Ears
Q: What does Tarun suggest about system upgrades and budget?
He suggests not upgrading in bite-sized increments; instead, balance the system and invest where it matters most (often speakers and room acoustics) for the best overall improvement.

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A conversational show that centers on the lives, work, and industry dynamics of outliers in the creative world. Across episodes, two hosts explore topics ranging from fair compensation and negotiating for value in creative work to hands-on craft like sound design, photography, music production, and storytelling. Guests and topics skew toward independent artists, photographers, musicians, directors, and writers, often weaving in practical career guidance, process tips, and candid reflections on balancing artistry with commercial realities. A standout trait is the duo's willingness to tackle uncomfortable trade-offs, gatekeeping, and the evolving media landscape, all with a collaborations-first ethos and a knack for sharing personal anecdotes... more

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2. Dorothy Robbins
3. Tom Myers
4. Will Waterworth
5. Annicka Ekvall
6. Kieran Kerwin
7. Michael Alan Ross
8. Jeff Burkhart

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