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The Church Lobby

Karl Vaters
Small Churches
Community Engagement
Discipleship
Christian Leadership
Christianity
Church Growth Movement
Pastoral Leadership
Church Ministry
Church Leadership
Wilkes-Barre
Church Growth
Grief
Leadership
Bivocational Ministry
Mental Health
Co-Vocational Pastoring
Restored Church
Multiethnic Kingdom Culture
Hub For Movement Strategy
Trunk-Or-Treat

Karl Vaters interviews church leaders about the important issues of faith and ministry. It's called The Church Lobby because: The church lobby is where the church meets and does ministry. The church lobby moves conversations from the stage to the floor. The church lobby is a good place to take the temperature of a church’s health. Karl Vaters is the author of several books, including Small Church ... more

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“What's wrong with being just a normal church?” That’s the question at the center of Thomas Austin’s song, Normal Church.

In this episode, Karl Vaters interviews Thomas Austin about the content of his song, including where the idea for it came from,... more

Discontent is a tricky monster. It’s so easy to spot it in others, but easy to overlook in ourselves.

Karl Vaters interviews pastor Chris Maxwell about what contentment is not (laziness or mediocrity), what it is (an inner peace), what causes so muc... more

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Kevin Foster is the founding pastor of LifeBridge Community Church in Fresno, CA, a church that made a radical shift in emphasis several years ago when the brokenness of the people in their lower income city led them to run to the brokenness.

Karl a... more

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Karl Vaters talks with Sam Rainer about some massive changes that are happening, and how the looming pastoral shortage will affect everything about the way churches function in the next generation or two.

Based on Sam’s article, The Coming Massive W... more

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Chris Maxwell
Author and pastor focused on contentment in life and ministry
Author of Contentment: What You're Searching For May Already Be Yours
Episode: Ep 130: Overcoming Discontent: Chris Maxwell on Finding Contentment in Life and Ministry
Kevin Foster
Founding pastor of LifeBridge Community Church (Fresno)
LifeBridge Community Church, Fresno
Episode: Ep 129: Run to the Brokenness: Kevin Foster on How Your Church Can Stand Out by Serving
Sam Rainer
Pastor and author discussed in-depth, author of articles on pastoral retirement
Church Answers / Sam Rainer, LLC
Episode: Ep 128: The Aging Pastorate: Sam Rainer on the Looming Pastoral Retirement Crunch
Chris Paavola
Pastor in Battle Creek, Michigan; author and speaker on prayer
Pastor, Battle Creek, Michigan; author
Episode: Ep 127: Effective Small-Church Prayer Strategies, with Chris Paavola
Shaunti Feldhahn
Doctor, researcher and co-author of When Hurting People Come to Church
Church Cares Initiative
Episode: Ep 125: How People of Faith Can Help Solve the Mental Health Crisis, with Shaunti Feldhahn & James N. Sells
James Sells
Doctor and psychologist with experience in Christian ministry
Church Cares Initiative
Episode: Ep 125: How People of Faith Can Help Solve the Mental Health Crisis, with Shaunti Feldhahn & James N. Sells
Darryl Dash
Pastor in Toronto, Canada; author of Advice to New and Aspiring Pastors (The Gospel Coalition Canada)
dashhouse.com / Gospel for Life
Episode: Ep 123: Six Things I’d Do Differently If I Was a Young Pastor Today, with Darryl Dash
Kurt W. Bubna
Author and speaker, reflected on personal journey and experience with trust and integrity.
Episode: Ep 122: Philip Yancey, Shattered Trust, and Rebuilding Your Integrity, with Kurt Bubna
Laurie Graham
Runs smallchurchministry.com, providing resources for volunteers in smaller churches.
Small Church Ministry
Episode: Ep 121: Six Big Shifts In How People Volunteer—And How To Respond, with Laurie Graham

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Karl Vaters
Host of The Church Lobby

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 54 ratings
  • Microphone

    Your microphone volume has been low for many months. The ad volume was high and clear in comparison. I’ve had trouble listening and the content is wonderful. I want to hear it better. Thanks and blessings

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Fr. Howard
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great wisdom

    Powerful, practical, and biblical wisdom to lead any church no matter the size. I’m a music leader for my local, small church and these conversations and suggestions will build your knowledge, your humility and encourage you. Just Wonderful! Every church should use this tool and resource.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    tellis478
    United States4 years ago
  • 6 stars… no really

    Karl is a gift to small church pastors. I’m sorry to say I didn’t catch this from the beginning, but now I get to binge 2 months worth at once. That means more great moments like Darth Vader wielding a dog brush. Lots of guys have been championing small church over the last 5 years, but Karl was the original. Thankful God has enabled him.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Apostle84
    United States5 years ago
  • So needed!

    Karl Vaters has his finger on the pulse of a small church. Make sure to check out his book The Grasshopper Myth. Changed my view of what the small church is. Great stuff!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pastor James Turnes
    United States5 years ago
  • Finally!

    This is great. I love the premise. Big churches are good and have their place, but solutions for a big church and a small church are different. Thank you for making this.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mdehnert82
    United States5 years ago

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Listeners praise practical, biblically grounded insights for small churches.
Audience notes binge-worthy discussions and deep respect for the host's focus on small church realities.
Fans highlight candid, actionable leadership guidance and tangible takeaways.
Feedback emphasizes the show's emphasis on rest, margins, and sustainable ministry.

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Ep 129: Run to the Brokenness: Kevin Foster on How Your Church Can Stand Out by Serving
Q: How can smaller churches compete with larger ones in terms of impact?
Smaller churches can leverage proximity, relational capital, and consistent, localized engagement to achieve significant, lasting impact, often more sustainably than mega-church models.
Ep 129: Run to the Brokenness: Kevin Foster on How Your Church Can Stand Out by Serving
Q: What are the three new metrics for ministry discussed in your book?
Spiritual impact measured by discipleship and devotion; social impact measured by meeting housing, clothing, and food needs; economic impact measured by job creation and income growth for community members.
Ep 129: Run to the Brokenness: Kevin Foster on How Your Church Can Stand Out by Serving
Q: How did the pandemic reveal or shape ministry in Fresno?
The crisis exposed gaps; the church created a prayer line, drive-through prayer, and a food distribution operation that grew as needs expanded, eventually transforming the sanctuary into a warehouse to sustain the community.
Ep 129: Run to the Brokenness: Kevin Foster on How Your Church Can Stand Out by Serving
Q: What does it mean to run to the brokenness, and what does that look like in LifeBridge's context?
It means churches should identify immediate needs around their location and redefine success by addressing those needs, not just by counting attendees or the budget; LifeBridge turned crisis into action by running to the brokenness through food distribution, housing support, and spiritual care.
Ep 130: Overcoming Discontent: Chris Maxwell on Finding Contentment in Life and Ministry
Q: What is contentment?
Contentment is finding internal peace that isn't dependent on changing external circumstances, and it involves understanding who we are in relation to God, gratitude, and living with purpose in the present moment.

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Frequently Asked Questions About The Church Lobby

What is The Church Lobby about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show centers on practical ministry leadership with a strong emphasis on small-to-mid sized churches. Episodes blend hands-on strategies for governance, discipleship, volunteer engagement, and mental health within faith communities, often featuring pastors, authors, and researchers who offer actionable frameworks (e.g., care ministries, slower growth models, and discipline-based discipleship). Notable threads include prioritizing rest and margins for leaders, rethinking traditional growth metrics, and weaving humility, authenticity, and relational care into church life. A distinctive trait is consistently highlighting the needs and realities of smaller churches while inviting diverse expert guests to translate big concepts into doable s... more

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1. Chris Maxwell
2. Kevin Foster
3. Sam Rainer
4. Chris Paavola
5. Shaunti Feldhahn
6. James Sells
7. Darryl Dash
8. Kurt W. Bubna

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