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Born Scrappy

Stu Kagan
Scrap Metal Industry
Fastmarkets AMM
US Ferrous Scrap Market
Partnerships and Collaboration
Shapiro Metal Recycling
Technology In Scrap Industry
Metro Metals Northwest
Pricing Methodology
Leadership and Entrepreneurship
Margin
Data
CW Companies
Rema
Portland, United States
Lithium-Ion Batteries
Artificial Intelligence
United States
Branding
Fire Rover
Canada

This is the podcast for scrap metal traders and operators who want to get sharper without losing their scrappy edge.

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In this episode of Born Scrappy I sit down with Brett Ekart, Serial Entrepreneur, Owner of United Metals Recycling and the host of A Scrap Life podcast, for a masterclass in what it really means to grow. Not just bigger, but smarter... more

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In this episode of Born Scrappy I sit down with Michael Lion, Former Owner of Philipp & Lion and Former Consultant & Chairman at Sims Metal Management, for a masterclass in what really happens when it all goes wrong and what you can... more

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In this episode of Born Scrappy I sit down with Jonathan Ross from John Ross & Sons Ltd., and his son Alex Ross, VP of Ops and Sales. Recorded live at ReMA 2026, this is a candid, unfiltered conversation about what it actually takes... more

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In this week’s episode, I chat to Lenny Formato, Co-founder of Empire Metal Trading. A third-generation recycler out of New York, Lenny has lived and breathed this industry from a young age. From riding trucks as a kid to building a... more

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Recent Guests

Brett Ekart
Owner/operator with a diversified portfolio across scrap, tire recycling, pipe distribution, and property development
Private business owner
Episode: Spotting the Next Opportunity with Brett Ekart
Michael Lion
Former CEO and high-profile scrap trader; led Philipp & Lion, later worked with Sims Metal Management
Philipp & Lion; Sims Metal Management
Episode: Growing Through Adversity with Michael Lion
Jonathan Ross
Leader at one of the largest metal recycling companies in Canada
Ross family business (Canada)
Episode: Earning the Right to Lead with Jonathan & Alex Ross
Alex Ross
Next-generation leader in the family business
Ross family business (Canada)
Episode: Earning the Right to Lead with Jonathan & Alex Ross
Lenny Formato
Owner of Empire Metal Trading, scrap metal industry executive
Empire Metal Trading
Episode: Persistence, Partnerships, and the Future of Scrap with Lenny Formato
Andy Golding
Incoming chair of ReMA
ReMA
Episode: Attracting Young Talent with Andy Golding
Erin McCoy
Policy/industry overview presenter
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Episode: Trade, Tariffs and the Current Climate with Erin McCoy, Dave Bestwick & Josephita Harry
Dave Bestwick
Industry practitioner discussing practical impacts of tariffs on sourcing and contracts
Dominion National? (as referenced in remarks)
Episode: Trade, Tariffs and the Current Climate with Erin McCoy, Dave Bestwick & Josephita Harry
Josephita Harry
Panelist sharing experiential insights on tariff impacts and market dynamics
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Episode: Trade, Tariffs and the Current Climate with Erin McCoy, Dave Bestwick & Josephita Harry

Host

Stu Kagan
Host of Born Scrappy; central moderator and commentator; engages with guests and leads discussions.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 22 ratings
  • Great information and so funny!

    I love this pod and find it so interesting! Great information!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    sachaglows
    United States2 years ago
  • Stu Kagan is one of the leading voices in the industry.

    Every podcast episode is always entertaining and informative.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    benmunoz
    United States2 years ago

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Discussions mix humor with rigorous industry analysis
Listeners appreciate practical, street-smart industry insights
Guests bring high credibility and actionable takeaways
Back-to-back episodes offer diverse perspectives on policy, tech, and leadership

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Trade Flows & Global Markets with Craig Weber
Q: What does hedging look like in practice for a scrap yard?
Hedging involves placing an LME or equivalent contract against a fixed-price purchase to lock in the margin, with pricing for the consumer often set at the end of the month to shield against volatility.
Growing Through Adversity with Michael Lion
Q: What is the lasting takeaway you want listeners to remember about mistakes and adversity?
Mistakes are normal and can be the best teachers; they should be analyzed, learned from, and translated into better processes so you can operate with grit and scrupulous discipline in future deals.
Growing Through Adversity with Michael Lion
Q: If you could tell your younger self one life lesson, what would it be?
Don't get distracted and keep your eye on the ball; understand and manage risk, establish robust checks, and remember that loyalty should be earned, not assumed or taken for granted.
Growing Through Adversity with Michael Lion
Q: What advice would you give to younger traders starting out?
Give traders enough rope to learn, but not enough to hang you; maintain balance between ambition and discipline, and never assume there is zero risk—always mitigate and have contingency plans.
Growing Through Adversity with Michael Lion
Q: What's your approach to risk and how did it evolve after those experiences?
The core lesson is that risk is inherent in trading, but the key is recognizing and quantifying it upfront, building proper controls, and avoiding the trap of believing you have zero risk or relying on luck rather than due diligence.

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What is Born Scrappy about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A show aimed at scrap metal traders and yard operators, balancing practical, hands-on business tactics with industry trends and policy context. Across episodes, listeners hear diversified business strategies, risk management in volatile metal markets, leadership in family or multi-yard operations, and technical insights on pricing, safety, and technology adoption. Noteworthy is the strong emphasis on scrappy entrepreneurship, real-world lessons from industry veterans, and a willingness to explore controversial topics like tariffs and brand storytelling to reshape industry perception. This mix helps decision-makers decide where to invest time and capital, whether expanding yards, diversifying portfolios, or adopting new tech solutions to sta... more

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