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Blood and Water

ABC News
Leslie Preer
True Crime
DNA
Genetic Genealogy
Eugene Gligor
DNA Genealogy
Idaho Falls, United States
Leslie Preer Murder
Eugene Glegor Case
Eugene Glegor
Fallbrook, United States
Washington, D.C.
Chevy Chase, Maryland
DNA Evidence
Lauren Preer
2020
Leslie Jenning Preer
Domestic Partner Homicide
Andre Gligor
Forensics

In 2001, Leslie Preer was found brutally murdered, her body left in the shower of her home in the wealthy suburbs of Washington, D.C. Investigators initially set their sights on Leslie’s husband as the prime suspect — until bombshell DNA evidence revealed the presence of an "unknown male" at the scene. With extensive access to the original police tapes and interviews with the cold case detectives... more

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Recent Guests

Lieutenant Dennis Brugos
Lieutenant of the San Diego Sheriff's Department who oversaw the investigation
San Diego County Sheriff's Department
Episode: Introducing 'What Happened to the McStays?'
Stephanie Ramos
Reporter and host of the true crime series Blood and Water (ABC Audio)
ABC
Episode: Bonus: The Brother
Eugene Glegor
Subject of the investigation and interviewee
None stated
Episode: Face to Face
Brett Reedy
Leslie's boss and office operations manager
Private company (Chevy Chase, MD)
Episode: Looking for Leslie
Lauren Preer
Leslie Preer's daughter
Family of the victim
Episode: Looking for Leslie
Sandy Preer
Leslie Preer's husband
Family
Episode: Looking for Leslie

Host

Stephanie Ramos
Host of Blood and Water; ABC Audio/ABC News correspondent

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 790 ratings
  • Complète waste of time

    It took six episodes and over three hours to tell an uninteresting story. There was no clear motive NOR a clear explanation of what happened. The killer claims he didn’t remember what happened and the evidence doesn’t paint a clear picture.

    DON’T waste your time

    Apple Podcasts
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    Rociluna
    United Statesa month ago
  • Play on 1.2 speed

    Play on faster speed. Should be 6 eps not 7.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    AnonyCrat
    United Statesa month ago
  • Fried, lots and lots croaking and fry from the host.

    Like an egg that talks…

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    ManicMonkeyMojo
    United Statesa month ago
  • Sooooo GOOD

    Oh my God, this crime true thing oh my God, it’s like so good. Make more of these guys or should I say blood and water made by ABC News?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AlwaildfFoFoplazy😎💚
    Saudi Arabiaa month ago
  • Observation

    Listening to him cry and whimper, saying I don’t know is literally sickening. He’s a wimp coward

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Hamilton160
    Canada2 months ago

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Some listeners feel the pacing drags and voices repetitive, especially across multiple episodes.
Mixed reactions to ad-density and episode release cadence, with some calling for a complete release at once.
Listeners praise strong investigative framing and emotional interviews from families and detectives.

Chart Rankings

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Apple Podcasts
#104
United States/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#96
Canada/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#109
United Kingdom/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#107
Australia/True Crime
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#159
Indonesia/Top Podcasts
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#201
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Bonus: The Brother
Q: What did investigators ultimately learn about the DNA evidence and the suspect?
The DNA matched Eugene Gligor, leading to his arrest, and detectives later spoke with his brother Andre to gather more context about the family dynamics and possible connections to the crime.
Bonus: The Brother
Q: What was it like reporting a long-term case as a journalist?
Stephanie Ramos explained how researching this story involved weaving together many different characters and interviews, learning the long process of assembling a long-form piece while news kept evolving in real time.
Face to Face
Q: What was your reaction to the plea?
Lauren Preer describes a mix of relief and relief tempered by the heaviness of the decision, acknowledging that avoiding a long trial brought some resolution but that the process of closure is ongoing for the family.
Looking for Leslie
Q: How did the investigation progress from an assumed accident to a homicide?
The scene showed signs of deliberate violence and attempted cleanup; autopsy confirmed homicide and detectives pursued a non-random motive, eventually focusing on the family dynamics and early suspects.

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What is Blood and Water about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Engaging true-crime narration that follows long-running investigations with a focus on investigative methods, forensic breakthroughs, and personal impact. Episodes weave archival police tapes, detective interviews, and survivor perspectives to trace how a case evolves from initial suspicion to forensic breakthroughs and final resolution. The show often centers onDNA evidence and modern genetics, while balancing intimate family stories with procedural detail. Noteworthy strengths include steady, narrative storytelling guided by seasoned reporters and a willingness to explore both the technical and human costs behind major cases. Potential listeners who enjoy methodical crime storytelling, courtroom context, and survivor voices will likely fi... more

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1. Lieutenant Dennis Brugos
2. Stephanie Ramos
3. Eugene Glegor
4. Brett Reedy
5. Lauren Preer
6. Sandy Preer

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