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Been There Got Out Podcast

Chris & Lisa
High-Conflict Divorce
Parental Alienation
Domestic Violence
Co-Parenting
High Conflict Divorce
Trauma
Divorce
Family Court
Narcissistic Abuse
Custody
Guardian Ad Litem
Mediation
Child Protective Services
Family Law
New York City
Custody Evaluations
Reunification Therapy
Grief
Trauma Healing
Negotiation

Chris and Lisa of BeenThereGotOut.com both survived toxic marriages with narcissistic partners and the legal and co-parenting nightmares that go hand-in-hand with all of that.If you are struggling in a high-conflict relationship, divorce, custody battle, or co-parenting hell which requires PERSONALIZED attention, let us HOLD YOUR HAND along the way, while providing EXPERT, STRATEGIC guidance based... more

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You've been out of the relationship for years. So why does your ex's voice still feel like it's squatting between your ears?

If you replay old arguments at 2 a.m., wonder what you did wrong, or feel like you're always one mistake away from getting i... more

This conversation discusses domestic violence and the deaths of two children. Please take care of yourself as you watch, and pause whenever you need to.

On June 22, 2026, Arizona's domestic violence custody law changed, and it changed because of a m... more

Why do smart, successful, accomplished women stay in abusive relationships? And why does the shame feel even heavier when everyone thinks you have the perfect life?

In this honest conversation, Lisa talks with Machan Taylor, a professional singer wh... more

"Your life is in my hands" is the worst thing a client can say to their lawyer, according to family law attorney James Lea. And after 45 years in courtrooms, he has heard it plenty.

If you're facing a high-conflict divorce or custody battle, the att... more

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Lynn Steinberg
Clinical psychologist, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist, Registered Clinical Counsellor, mediator and family-court expert witness.
One Family at a Time
Episode: Parental Alienation in Court: What to Ask the Judge For Without Saying "Alienation"
Jennifer Lee
Physical therapist with 16 years of experience specializing in nervous-system-focused bodywork.
Episode: How to Calm Your Nervous System Before Court: Breathing, Movement & Decisions
Lawrence Joss
Founder of Parental Alienation Advocates and Parental Alienation Anonymous
Parental Alienation Advocates
Episode: How to Stay Grounded: Advice from a Parental Alienation Support Group Founder
Lisa Zeiderman
New York matrimonial and family law attorney and managing partner at Miller Zeiderman LLP.
Miller Zeiderman LLP
Episode: Can Your Ex Use Your Therapy Against You in Custody?
Katy Harris
Accredited family and civil mediator, child development consultant and founder of Mediation Matters Midlands
Mediation Matters Midlands
Episode: When an 11-Year-Old Chooses Which Parent to Live With: A Mediator's Story of Loss & Return
Shawna Leatherman
Mother, writer, and advocate who has experienced parental alienation for almost 13 years
The Unseen Parent
Episode: The Unseen Parent: A Targeted Mom on the Undermining That Starts Before You Divorce
Christal Badour
Licensed clinical psychologist; trauma recovery and PTSD-substance use intersection expert
University of Kentucky
Episode: The Science of Self-Medication: Trauma, PTSD & Substance Use After Abuse
Max Weigand
Positive psychologist and creator of Psychosomatic Intelligence
Max Weigand
Episode: How to Stop Your Brain from Panicking at Every Text from Your Toxic Ex
Ian Steinberg
Matrimonial and family law attorney based in New York City
Burkman Botker Newman & Shane
Episode: Ian Steinberg: Making Mediation Work With a High-Conflict Ex

Hosts

Lisa [full name common usage: Lisa]
Host focused on trauma-informed guidance and co-parenting support; appears across episodes with strong emphasis on practical strategies and safety planning.
Chris [full name common usage: Chris]
Co-host with expertise in navigating high-conflict custody scenarios and sharing practical, experience-based guidance.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 38 ratings
  • A must-listen podcast

    Lisa is a fabulous host. She asked thoughtful questions that elicited insights pertinent to her audience, and guided the conversation with skill and empathy.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Serena Low Quiet Warrior Coach
    Australia21 days ago
  • Beware Dr. Premela Deck Episode 357

    Warning avoid SD Family Services and Premela Deck (MA)

    Just because she goes by Dr. Deck does not make her qualified to speak on the topic of reunification. Premela Deck is a family law attorney first and foremost. While working with my family, she stepped way outside of her scope and court appointment creating a much bigger mess than was initially presented to her.

    Her prices are exorbitant and they are constantly trying to upsell services. Premela has "contracts" she asks each new parent pa... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    SOS MA 723
    United States24 days ago
  • Great Podcast

    I had a wonderful experience with Lisa and Chris exploring the machinations of narcissistic abuse in the realm of spiritual and religious frameworks. They are organized, sincere, welcoming and insightful. There platform is a source of respite for trauma survivors of narcissistic abuse who are navigating recovery and family litigation. I'm looking forward to listening to the interview when its released!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SheriHeller
    Canada5 months ago
  • Generally good

    I was so infuriated by episode 286 I almost didn’t get through it. No wonder Lisa stepped away. “Women kill the men they’ve attracted, metaphorically” ARE YOU KIDDING ME…. My ex obviously got this guys book, and he’s excellent at those accusation(admissions). I found this guest way beyond disappointing, and only confirms the games we all know are being played in front of court… simply inflammatory. Please do better.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    must have for new moms
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great tips on how to co-parent with a toxic ex

    Love the support Lisa and Chris’ podcast provides!!! So helpful!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jeanine Mouchawar
    United Statesa year ago

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Some episodes spark strong debate; maintaining respectful discourse is noted as important for ongoing trust.
Critiques exist about inconsistent production quality and guest vetting, with some listeners calling for stricter guest screening.
Listeners appreciate trauma-informed approaches and practical tools that can be applied in real-life situations.
Praise for interview quality and host ability to extract useful strategies from guests.
Positive feedback on empathetic hosting and actionable tips for navigating high-conflict custody.

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When an 11-Year-Old Chooses Which Parent to Live With: A Mediator's Story of Loss & Return
Q: As mediators, how do you help parents start assembling a team where you're not expecting a judge to do it?
Lucy describes building small points of agreement and directing parents' attention to their child's needs. Katy and Lucy say they assess safety and emotional readiness in confidential meetings, then signpost families to therapists, charities, legal advisers and other local services when needed.
When an 11-Year-Old Chooses Which Parent to Live With: A Mediator's Story of Loss & Return
Q: What did you think in terms of how this happened?
Katy says that in hindsight, her middle son was at an especially vulnerable age, caught between being the oldest and youngest. She cannot identify a single intervention that would have prevented what followed, but stresses the need for support after a court order and for parents to keep the door open.
The Unseen Parent: A Targeted Mom on the Undermining That Starts Before You Divorce
Q: What are some misconceptions or mistakes that you've noticed people make when it comes to alienation?
Leatherman says people may assume the targeted parent caused the child's rejection, overlooking years of conditioning and subtle behaviors. She also explains that an exhausted parent may step back after feeling that every effort is judged as wrong, which can be mistaken for not caring.
The Unseen Parent: A Targeted Mom on the Undermining That Starts Before You Divorce
Q: Are there times that you think it does start before the relationship, and what are some of the behaviors that people should pay attention to?
Leatherman says alienation can begin during the relationship through undermining, such as one parent overruling the other's rules in front of a child. Repeated patterns can lead the child to align with the parent who grants permission, and the dynamic may intensify after separation.
Can Your Ex Use Your Therapy Against You in Custody?
Q: What can I ask my legal team to do to push back?
A lawyer can seek an order restricting access to records or move to quash a subpoena, particularly when disclosure of a child's therapy records could harm the child or the therapeutic relationship. Parents may also request in camera review, attorneys-only access, and limits on dissemination of their own records.

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High-scarcity conflict topics anchor this show: hosts draw on personal experience surviving narcissistic partnerships and messy custody battles to help others navigate high-conflict relationships, divorce, and co-parenting. Episodes consistently feature experts from law, therapy, and child-focused advocacy, offering practical strategies around mediation, reunification therapy, parenting plans, and trauma-informed care. Noteworthy is the emphasis on compassionate, evidence-based approaches and a preference for actionable tools—ranging from negotiation tactics to somatic techniques—that listeners can apply in real-world separations and court processes. The show frequently centers child welfare, safe co-parenting, and reducing litigation throu... more

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2. Jennifer Lee
3. Lawrence Joss
4. Lisa Zeiderman
5. Katy Harris
6. Shawna Leatherman
7. Christal Badour
8. Max Weigand

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