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Barriers to Entry is a design innovation podcast on the SURROUND Podcast Network. On each episode, we obsess over the not-too-distant future of the architecture, design and creative industries and the ideas, tools, technologies and talent that will take us there. Hosted by SANDOW DESIGN GROUP Chief Growth Officer Bobby Bonett, and digby co-founder Andrew Lane.

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Latest Episodes

This time on BTE, co-host is back and he’s in the hot seat. Bobby Bonett — former Barriers to Entry co-host and newly appointed President of SANDOW DESIGN GROUP — trades the microphone for the guest chair, live at NeoCon 2026. And the plugs were flow... more

“Spinning Cycles”

This week Andrew welcomes Amra Tareen, serial entrepreneur and CEO of ALL3D.AI, for a conversation that starts with laundry—and never really leaves it. Across four startups and two decades of building at the intersection of design,... more

How do we prepare for the future without trying to predict it? Recorded at NeoCon, Andrew Lane speaks with futures designer Nick Foster, former head of design at Google X and author of Could, Should, Might, Don’t. Together, they explore how designers... more

Beyond the Prompt

This week Andrew welcomes Stacy Thorwart, AI educator, founder of The Intelligent Designer, and a fast-growing voice in the design technology space whose social platforms now reach tens of thousands of designers learning how to nav... more

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Recent Guests

Bobby Bonett
President of SANDOW Design Group
SANDOW Design Group
Episode: Getting the Band Back Together: Bobby Bonett, President, SANDOW DESIGN GROUP
Amra Tareen
CEO, All3D.AI
All3D.AI
Episode: Amra Tareen, CEO & Co-Founder, ALL3D.AI
Nick Foster
Futures designer, former Head of Design at Google X
Google X (Alphabet)
Episode: The Future Mundane with Nick Foster RDI
Stacy Thorwart
AI educator, strategist and consultant; founder of The Intelligent Designer
The Intelligent Designer
Episode: Stacy Thorwart, Founder, The Intelligent Designer
Michael Villegas
Design Director at IA Interior Architects
IA Interior Architects
Episode: Michael Villegas, Design Director, IA Interior Architects
Harvey Schaefer
Senior Program Manager for Machine Learning and AI, MillerKnoll Enterprise Technology and Data Enablement Group
MillerKnoll
Episode: Harvey Schaefer, Senior Program Manager, Machine Learning & AI, MillerKnoll
Kellan Shanahan
Lead Product Designer at Arktura
Arktura
Episode: Kellan Shanahan, Lead Product Designer, Arktura
Caroline Murphy
Design engagement strategist at Sandow
Sandow
Episode: Caroline Murphy, Design Engagement Strategist, SANDOW
Matthias Hollwich
Founder of HWKN Architecture
HWKN Architecture
Episode: Matthias Hollwich, Founder, HWKN Architecture

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Andrew Lane
Co-host; Digby co-founder; involved in design, architecture, and media ventures.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 51 ratings
  • Very informative!

    I have learned so much from this podcast - the hosts are excellent and the guests are very knowledgeable, insightful and thought provoking

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jinxycanflush
    United States3 years ago
  • Love this podcast

    It’s the topic everyone is talking about!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Edsel Vander
    United States3 years ago
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    Great podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
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    United States3 years ago

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Guests are consistently knowledgeable and well-curated for hands-on practitioners.
The hosts deliver insightful conversations with a practical edge for design and architecture audiences.
The show often highlights real-world tools and partnerships that listeners can imitate.

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#204
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#45
Hong Kong/Arts/Design
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#56
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#116
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#157
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#239
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Amra Tareen, CEO & Co-Founder, ALL3D.AI
Q: How do you manage stakeholder buy-in in a corporate environment when pursuing internal innovation?
Build a strong business case, show revenue potential, secure internal champions across leadership, and pilot with a funded space or lab to demonstrate feasibility before broad rollout.
Amra Tareen, CEO & Co-Founder, ALL3D.AI
Q: What are the things you're looking for to quantify whether 3D is a smart bet for increasing cart size?
Demonstrable ROI through faster Visualizations, higher conversion, and the ability to scale with a browser-based platform that reduces reliance on expensive shoots and permits rapid iteration with AI-assisted models.
Amra Tareen, CEO & Co-Founder, ALL3D.AI
Q: What was the impetus that got you thinking that you should move into 3D?
The momentum came from the combination of emerging 3D capture tech, the need to speed up design visualization, and early wins showing that 3D renders could boost engagement and sales for Decorist and later Bed Bath & Beyond vendors.
The Future Mundane with Nick Foster RDI
Q: What is the future mundane and why is it important?
The future mundane reframes the future as a lived, everyday present rather than a distant ideal, emphasizing ordinary contexts and human-scale impacts to make foresight more practical and responsible.
Stacy Thorwart, Founder, The Intelligent Designer
Q: What are the core tools designers should be looking at, and what's your stance on tool selection?
Her approach is to emphasize fewer, but more effective tools, starting with ChatGPT and then adding selective tools like transcription and image generators (MidJourney, Nano Banana) to support different parts of the design workflow, stressing practical utility and ongoing updates.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Barriers to Entry

What is Barriers to Entry about and what kind of topics does it cover?

- The show concentrates on design, architecture, and the broader creative industries, exploring practical AI adoption, design futures, and crossover between making, manufacturing, and business strategy. Episodes frequently center on how firms scale innovation, govern AI thoughtfully, and blend human craft with automated tools. Notable guests come from design studios, architecture practices, and manufacturing/behavioral change roles, often discussing real-world programs, internal tools, and partnerships with manufacturers. The tone is hands-on and industry-facing, with sponsor relationships (e.g., Arktura) highlighted as examples of practical collaboration. Listeners likely include design leaders and practitioners seeking actionable insights... more

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1. Bobby Bonett
2. Amra Tareen
3. Nick Foster
4. Stacy Thorwart
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6. Harvey Schaefer
7. Kellan Shanahan
8. Caroline Murphy

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