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Barriers to Entry is a design innovation podcast on the SURROUND Podcast Network. On each episode, we obsess over the not-too-distant future of the architecture, design and creative industries and the ideas, tools, technologies and talent that will take us there. Hosted by SANDOW DESIGN GROUP Chief Growth Officer Bobby Bonett, and digby co-founder Andrew Lane.

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Beyond the Prompt

This week Andrew welcomes Stacy Thorwart, AI educator, founder of The Intelligent Designer, and a fast-growing voice in the design technology space whose social platforms now reach tens of thousands of designers learning how to nav... more

The Creative Assistant

This week Andrew welcomes Michael Villegas, Design Director at IA Interior Architects, for a conversation that begins in an unexpected place: a suburban mall in the 90s. From arcades and Hot Topic to skateboarding and early ex... more

Testing the Fences

This week Andrew welcomes Harvey Schaefer of MillerKnoll for a conversation that starts with a sore throat, a quick detour into Severance, and lands in a surprisingly human place: change management. As a leader in MillerKnoll’s gr... more

Good Scaffolding

This week Andrew welcomes Kellan Shanahan, a public artist turned-Lead Product Designer at Arktura, for a conversation about how curiosity, experimentation, and iteration shape the development of products and systems.

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Recent Guests

Michael Villegas
Design Director at IA Interior Architects
IA Interior Architects
Episode: Michael Villegas, Design Director, IA Interior Architects
Harvey Schaefer
Senior Program Manager for Machine Learning and AI, MillerKnoll Enterprise Technology and Data Enablement Group
MillerKnoll
Episode: Harvey Schaefer, Senior Program Manager, Machine Learning & AI, MillerKnoll
Kellan Shanahan
Lead Product Designer at Arktura
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Episode: Kellan Shanahan, Lead Product Designer, Arktura
Caroline Murphy
Design engagement strategist at Sandow
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Episode: Caroline Murphy, Design Engagement Strategist, SANDOW
Matthias Hollwich
Founder of HWKN Architecture
HWKN Architecture
Episode: Matthias Hollwich, Founder, HWKN Architecture
Chris Barton
Founder of Shazam and keynote speaker at NeoCon
Episode: Chris Barton: Founder of Shazam, 2025 NeoCon Keynote Speaker
Mary Franck
Experiential creative director at Future Colossal
Future Colossal
Episode: Mary Franck, Experiential Creative Director
Steven Ranta
Studio Manager for Arktura's Solutions Studio Team.
Arktura
Episode: Steven Ranta, Solutions Manager, Arktura and Nathan Ferrance, Vice President, HKS
Nathan Ferrance
Studio Design Leader for Interiors at HKS with accolades from IIDA, ASID, AIA.
HKS
Episode: Steven Ranta, Solutions Manager, Arktura and Nathan Ferrance, Vice President, HKS

Hosts

Andrew Lane
Co-founder at Digby
Bobby Bonett
Chief Marketing and Revenue Officer at Sandow Design Group

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 51 ratings
  • Very informative!

    I have learned so much from this podcast - the hosts are excellent and the guests are very knowledgeable, insightful and thought provoking

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jinxycanflush
    United States3 years ago
  • Love this podcast

    It’s the topic everyone is talking about!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Edsel Vander
    United States3 years ago
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    Great podcast.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ratherthan
    United States3 years ago

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Very informative and insightful, with knowledgeable guests.
Content that resonates with design and architecture communities.
High-quality conversations that balance theory and real-world application.
Listeners appreciate the practical takeaways for design and technology.
Engaging guests and clear discussions about future-forward topics.

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Apple Podcasts
#150
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Apple Podcasts
#12
Hong Kong/Arts/Design
Apple Podcasts
#42
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#90
Singapore/Arts/Design
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#118
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#125
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Talking Points

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Matthias Hollwich, Founder, HWKN Architecture
Q: What opportunities do you see AI opening up for architects beyond traditional practice?
AI enables new services and markets, such as interior hospitality projects, gigayachts, and data-driven master plans, while giving clients broader strategic insights about location, tenant fit, and market dynamics.
Matthias Hollwich, Founder, HWKN Architecture
Q: What role does AI play in your client communications during the transition to AI-enabled design?
We start with transparency about the process, show the steps and goals, then shift the conversation to the results and value the client gains from the new process, which reduces fear and builds trust.
Matthias Hollwich, Founder, HWKN Architecture
Q: Can you describe how you restructured your firm to function like a startup without losing the essence of design quality?
We implemented total empowerment and transparency, avoided a top-down mandate, and encouraged teams to become experts in specific AI tools through practical experimentation, workshops, and ongoing knowledge sharing.
Chris Barton: Founder of Shazam, 2025 NeoCon Keynote Speaker
Q: Where do you draw inspiration from now?
Chris shares that he is inspired by the rapid pace of innovations in AI and enjoys consuming podcast interviews with technical founders from AI platforms.
Chris Barton: Founder of Shazam, 2025 NeoCon Keynote Speaker
Q: What are some of the key themes that you'll be spotlighting in your presentation?
Chris emphasizes his focus on innovative thinking applicable across changing industries, influenced by his experiences creating Shazam.

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