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At the Water's Edge

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The At the Water’s Edge Podcast explores national security and geopolitics from an insider’s perspective, looking at how national power, industrial policy, diplomacy, and military might shape our world and America’s place in it.

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The war with Iran is back on, and according to Robert Pape, Professor at the University of Chicago, we are now knocking on the door of the most dangerous stage of the conflict yet. This week, Pape walks through why Iran's Supreme Leader has issued a ... more

Joe Kent spent 21 years in Army Special Forces and the CIA before becoming President Trump's Director of the National Counterterrorism Center — then walked away from it, resigning in protest over the war with Iran.

This week I sit down with him to t... more

Just days after President Trump's Fourth of July weekend, Iran held a massive funeral for its slain leadership — and millions turned out. In this week's installment of our ongoing series on the war with Iran, Robert Pape, Professor at the University ... more

This is the latest episode in The Escalation Trap, an ongoing series with Robert Pape of the University of Chicago tracking the war involving the United States, Israel, and Iran in real time.

After new strikes in the Strait of Hormuz, U.S. bombing i... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. Jessica Maples Keller
Clinical psychologist and associate professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Emory University
Emory University School of Medicine
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Walt Piatt
Retired Lieutenant General and CEO of the Wounded Warrior Project
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Jesse Gould
Founder of Heroic Hearts Project, veteran, advocate for psychedelic-assisted therapy
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Erin Fletcher
Director of the Warrior Care Network, Wounded Warrior Project
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Episode: Surviving War Was Only the Beginning | PTSD Part 1
Ryan Kules
Iraq veteran, Project Odyssey program lead
Wounded Warrior Project
Episode: Surviving War Was Only the Beginning | PTSD Part 1
John Eaton
Vice President of Complex Care, Wounded Warrior Project
Wounded Warrior Project
Episode: Surviving War Was Only the Beginning | PTSD Part 1
Trita Parsi
Founder of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft; advocate for diplomacy and restraint in US foreign policy toward Iran
Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft
Episode: Trump Thought Iran Would Collapse. He Was Wrong. | Trita Parsi
Sean O'Keefe
Former Secretary of the Navy and NASA Administrator
Government/public service
Episode: Former NASA Chief: America Has Lost the Meaning of Power | Iran, Artemis II & U.S. Decline
Negah Angha
Former senior advisor at the U.S. Department of State and National Security Council official under President Biden
King's College London (visiting fellow)
Episode: Former NSC Official: The Iran War Exposed America’s Broken Strategy | Negah Angha

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Scott
Host of the show; guides interview and discussion; frequently present across episodes.

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 29 ratings
  • Great listening

    Just a thoroughly well done and insightful podcast. Particularly enjoying the current series with Prof. Pape.

    A minor point however, it would be great if the professor would allow the host to finish articulating his question before jumping in. Makes the podcast difficult to listen to at times.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Crusty_Mick
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Thoughtfully challenging conventional wisdom

    Title says it all. My only concern is at times the host seems too deferential to interviewees, particularly the latest Israel-Gaza genocide episode. Both guests should have been challenged on their talking points not just try to justify their support for the flawed belligerents involved in the conflict.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Brovice
    United States2 years ago

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Audience appreciates rigorous, data-driven geopolitical analysis and expert guests.
Some listeners feel hosts could challenge guests more; debates over balance of deference vs. scrutiny.
Content is highly relevant for decision-makers tracking US foreign policy and regional risk.

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The Deal Is Signed. The War Isn’t Over. | Robert Pape on Iran
Q: How important is the Versailles analogy to understanding today's negotiations?
The Versailles analogy is used to illustrate how punitive settlements or one-sided terms can sow resentment and set the stage for renewed conflict, whereas a balance-of-power framework helps explain why a broader, longer-term security arrangement might be more stable.
The Deal Is Signed. The War Isn’t Over. | Robert Pape on Iran
Q: Is there a version of these negotiations where Iran pushes too hard and blows back on them in the Gulf years from now?
Yes. If Iran pushes beyond clear red lines, such as pressuring the US to stop funding Israel or overreaching in regional demands, it could backfire by triggering greater resistance from other Gulf states and eroding any potential gains.
The Future of PTSD Treatment Is Already Here. Why Can’t Veterans Access It?
Q: What are the pros and cons of psychedelic-assisted therapy for PTSD in veterans vs. civilians?
Analyses suggest similar effect sizes and safety profiles in veterans and civilians in open-label studies, though sample sizes are small and more rigorous trials are needed.
The Future of PTSD Treatment Is Already Here. Why Can’t Veterans Access It?
Q: How does Emory decide who gets into these trials?
Screening is rigorous with inclusion/exclusion criteria, including medical and psychiatric assessments; many may be wait-listed, and only eligible individuals are enrolled.
The Future of PTSD Treatment Is Already Here. Why Can’t Veterans Access It?
Q: Now, for folks who aren't familiar, can you introduce yourself in your own words to the audience?
Dr. Keller introduces herself as a clinical psychologist and associate professor at Emory, describing the Emory Veterans Program and the two-week intensive treatment model that integrates MDMA or psilocybin with trauma-focused therapy.

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Listeners tune in for deep, data-driven analysis of national security and geopolitics framed around power, diplomacy, and industrial policy. Episodes frequently dissect escalation dynamics in the Middle East, U.S. strategy, and the reshaping of global alliances, with a strong emphasis on how oil markets, naval postures, and technology influence decision-making. Notable throughlines include the escalation trap concept, the role of external actors in shaping regional stability, and practical implications for businesses navigating risk in conflict zones. The show stands out for bringing rigorous academic perspectives to current events, often featuring subject-matter experts who offer sober, scenario-focused takes on what policy choices mean fo... more

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1. Dr. Jessica Maples Keller
2. Walt Piatt
3. Jesse Gould
4. Erin Fletcher
5. Ryan Kules
6. John Eaton
7. Trita Parsi
8. Sean O'Keefe

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