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Anthropic
Google
Openai Frontier
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AI Integration In Design
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Microsoft
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Miro

Two Carnegie Mellon faculty explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping the world of design. Each week, we'll break down the latest AI developments, dive deep into AI topics that matter to designers, and talk with fascinating guests who are right at the intersection of these fields.All views expressed are our own and not reflective of Carnegie Mellon or the Human-Computer Interaction Institut... more

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Nik and Dan catch up on the news out of Figma Config 2026 — where generative plugins stole the show for Nik (build them with tokens, run them for free) — before digging into Anthropic's big Claude Design 2.0 overhaul, with canvas editing, design-syst... more

Dan reports live from Figma's Config 2026 conference in San Francisco, talking with seven design leaders — Peter Merholz, Jesse James Garrett, Greg Petroff, Ryan Freitas, Kim Lenox, Alice Quan, and Emily Campbell — about the keynote, major announceme... more

A year ago the consensus was that AI would hurt Apple. Last week at WWDC they showed up with a real Siri AI, the privacy story nobody else can match, and the $$$ hardware to run it. The "AI for the rest of us" play might just work. Dan and Nik dig in... more

Dan and Nik dig into Microsoft's sweeping redesign of 365 Copilot , transforming the prompt box into a task-aware workspace, leaning into progressive disclosure, and positioning AI as an embedded layer across Word, Excel, and Outlook rather than a bo... more

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Recent Guests

Kim Lennox
GoFundMe executive attending Config 2026
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Alice Quan
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Mark Boyes-Smith
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Episode: Copilot Redesign, Is AI ever Done, Amazon Proteus, Miro's Head of AI Design Mark Boyes-Smith
Sergiy Nesterenko
CEO of Quilter
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Episode: Figma and Stitch Updates, Design Memory, Fraude Design, Quilter CEO Sergiy Nesterenko
Llewyn Paine
User researcher and curator of Designing with AI Conference
Rosenfeld Media / Designing with AI Conference
Episode: Figma Design Agent, 2026 AI in Design Report, Synthetic Customers, Llewyn Paine on UXR
Thom Rimmer
VP of Product Design at FIN (formerly Intercom)
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Episode: AI Originality, Bolt-on AI, Special Guest: Fin's VP of Product Design Thom Rimmer
Tom Groendal
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Episode: Cognitive Surrender, Speed isn't The Bottleneck, and special guest PM Thomas Groendal

Hosts

Dan Saffer
Host; CMU HCII faculty; design and interaction expert
Nick Martellero
Co-host; CMU HCII Institute faculty; design and AI tooling specialist

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Cognitive Surrender, Speed isn't The Bottleneck, and special guest PM Thomas Groendal
Q: How is your organization approaching AI integration to maintain quality and velocity?
We use a combined approach: a low-friction, fast-cycle development pipeline (vibe coding), a strong governance layer (Product Brain with canonical docs), and an eval-driven testing framework to catch anti-patterns and ensure accountability before production.
Cognitive Surrender, Speed isn't The Bottleneck, and special guest PM Thomas Groendal
Q: What are the real-world risks of cognitive surrender when teams adopt AI in design work?
Cognitive surrender can lead teams to uncritically accept AI outputs, overestimate the system's understanding, and escalate false confidence, which can degrade design quality and safety, especially in unfamiliar domains. The fix includes designing interfaces and workflows that require human justification, offering multiple plausible options, and adding friction that prompts review.
Claude Computer Use, Product Intuition, Author Chris Noessel ("Designing Assistant Technology")
Q: I'm curious what's motivated you to come out with this book at this time.
Noessel explains that generative AI's rapid rise necessitated a practical framework for interaction design, building on prior work about agentive tech, while addressing the risk of de-skilling and the need to design assists that genuinely help users think and perform better.
AI Image Editors, Institutional v Individual AI, Author Louise MacFadyen ("Designing AI Interfaces")
Q: How should latency be treated in AI design, and is there a learning from slow AI?
Latency should be anticipated and communicated; designers can offer escape hatches (like smaller models) and design patterns that help users understand what is happening, especially when deep reasoning is involved.
AI Image Editors, Institutional v Individual AI, Author Louise MacFadyen ("Designing AI Interfaces")
Q: Can you talk about the middle piece of the input-computation-output framework and why it's confusing?
The middle piece—the computation—has historically been opaque; designers must articulate what happens under the hood since engineers often don't fully understand it either. This is where clear UX and explanations matter most.

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A thoughtful exploration of AI's impact on design, featuring CMU HCII faculty plus leading researchers and practitioners. Episodes commonly probe how AI tools reshape design processes, collaboration with AI agents, and the ethics, governance, and craft questions that arise when AI augments creative work. Notable threads include the evolving role of designers as AI ecosystems grow, debates over openness versus proprietary tooling, and practical case studies from industry players (Google, Anthropic, Figma) and academia. The show often blends hands-on tool analysis (stitching, design skills, UX patterns) with broader reflections on design literacy, provenance, and the future of design practice in an AI-enabled world. A standout trait is the ca... more

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