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The ABA Journal Legal Rebels Podcast features men and women who are remaking the legal profession and highlights the pioneers who are changing the way law is practiced and setting the standards that will guide the profession in the future.

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If you look at this year’s ABA Techshow advertising material, you could be forgiven for thinking that you were reading a comic book. Between the cartoon-style illustrations and the comic book-style captions and headings on the brochure and website, i... more

Let’s talk about every lawyer’s favorite subject: exams. It seems like every day, there’s another threshold that generative artificial intelligence crosses. First, it was able to take a bar exam and do reasonably well. Then it was able to ace it. Sam... more

In 2025, we saw greater adoption of generative artificial intelligence tools across all areas of the legal industry. Will 2026 bring more of the same? Or will there be a backlash or reaction of some sort? What about the regulatory landscape for AI? W... more

All in all, it’s shown that the legal industry, traditionally known as a staid, conservative and risk-averse profession, is undergoing a period of rapid change and transformation.

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Brett Burnie
Techshow 2026 co-chair; founder of Burnie Consultants
Burnie Consultants
Episode: Techshow Attendees Assemble: A preview of this year's show
Patrick Wright
Managing partner of The Wright Firm; Texas attorney
The Wright Firm
Episode: Techshow Attendees Assemble: A preview of this year's show
Daniel Schwartz
Professor at the University of Minnesota Law School teaching insurance law and writing extensively about AI and the law.
University of Minnesota Law School
Episode: Generative AI is now capable of grading law school exams; what's next?
Oliver Roberts
Co-director of the AI Collaboration Collaborative and adjunct professor at Washington University, St. Louis School of Law
wicard.ai
Episode: What's on tap for 2026 when it comes to generative AI?
Nikki Black
Principal legal insight strategist at 8 a.m. and regular columnist for the ABA Journal, Above the Law and the Daily Record.
8 a.m.
Episode: 2025 Year in Review: Generative AI, access to justice and law schools
Jason Brown
CEO of the Association of Corporate Counsel
Association of Corporate Counsel
Episode: How in-house counsel are increasingly turning to generative AI
Jack Newton
Co-founder and CEO of Clio
Clio
Episode: Clio founder talks $1B acquisition of vLex and upcoming Clio Cloud Conference
Hillary Bowman
CEO of Querious and former health law practitioner
Querious
Episode: How lawyers can use generative AI to get a leg up in communicating with clients
Kara Smith
Chief Product Officer at NCBE, with over 15 years in the assessment industry
National Conference of Bar Examiners
Episode: How the NCBE will move the NextGen bar exam to personal computers

Host

Victor Lee
Assistant Managing Editor of the ABA Journal and host of the Legal Rebels Podcast

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 12 ratings
  • Present at the disruption

    Brisk interviews draw actionable ideas from a wide range of change agents in technology and access to justice.

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    Escaped Notice
    United States10 years ago
  • Legal Rebels Podcast w/trailblazers

    Like Laurence I’m a little biased. As one of the editors at the ABA Journal I’m delighted to see this project underway. It adds a dimension to our popular Legal Rebels project and gives us a platform to deepen the discussion with innovators and trailblazers in the legal profession.

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    5
    MollyRama
    United States10 years ago
  • Paperless law office--interesting

    Terry Carter does a great job dissecting how to dive in to the paperless lawyer's world. Very solid info here. Our office "went paperless" as to our new files, and left all existing paper files as is. That way we didn't freak out. Svenson has really good advice on how to get started. Perfect lawyer topic.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Neal online 1
    United States10 years ago
  • Producer’s Review

    I am the producer and so (admittedly) I am a little biased. That said, this is an exciting project because it presents the opportunity to work with the legal industry’s most innovative minds. If you are a practicing attorney, interested in access to justice, or want to learn more about the future of legal practice… this show is for you. Driven by the high standards set at the ABA Journal, listeners can be sure to get a lot out of each episode.

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    5
    Laurence Colletti
    United States10 years ago
  • great show for lawyers from the ABA Journal

    I enjoyed the first few episodes and really looking forward to more.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AAJCCA
    United States10 years ago

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Great for lawyers interested in paperless workflows and practical guidance.
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The show adds a dimension to our Legal Rebels content, bringing in innovators and trailblazers.
Brisk interviews deliver actionable ideas from change agents in tech and access to justice.

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Generative AI is now capable of grading law school exams; what's next?
Q: How can professors use AI to help them grade if that's what it's heading?
Professors can use AI to provide automatic assessments of exam quality, giving rapid feedback based on grading rubrics, which can significantly enhance the learning process for law students.
Should we expect new regulations on data privacy and consumer protection?
Q: What states are considering new, comprehensive data privacy laws?
States like Pennsylvania and New York are currently debating new laws, with expectations of increasing state regulations continuing forward.
Should we expect new regulations on data privacy and consumer protection?
Q: What can we realistically expect from President Trump in this new administration regarding consumer privacy?
People are not optimistic about a federal consumer privacy law or protective actions under a Republican Congress and White House.
How the NCBE will move the NextGen bar exam to personal computers
Q: Are there any specific things that you've changed as a result of these pilots?
Yes, feedback from pilot tests has led to major enhancements, like built-in resources to alleviate previous technical issues.
How the NCBE will move the NextGen bar exam to personal computers
Q: Is this something that you worry about at night?
Yes, security is a significant concern, and they are implementing various measures to ensure the integrity of the exam.

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The show commonly centers on how technology and innovation are reshaping law practice, with a strong emphasis on AI, legal tech adoption, and education. Episodes frequently explore how tools like generative AI affect exams, client communication, in-house counsel workflows, and bar exam reforms, often featuring policymakers, technologists, and legal practitioners shaping the future of the profession. Noteworthy angles include the balance between embracing AI and preserving foundational skills, plus practical implications for law schools, firms, and access to justice. This mix offers listeners actionable insights for implementing tech, understanding regulation, and staying ahead in a rapidly evolving legal landscape.

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