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Join Brady Ng, Praveen Gopal Krishnan, and Rohin Dharmakumar of The Ken as they discuss the big ideas in artificial intelligence. You’ll get the macro view, explore their experiments in practical applications, go deeper than the news coverage you’ve seen, and hear about the implications of the latest developments. Nothing is off the table.

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"People in Silicon Valley and in China often have assumptions about each other. And their assumptions about each other are extremely self-centered."

Our guest today is Afra Wang,  a fellow at the Centre for the Governance of AI and the writer behind... more

Today is not regular programming for Zero Shot.

We present to you a glimpse of our first live event, which we dramatically titled “The Great Unbundling”.

It had a simple premise: agentic AI is coming. Soon. Hard. Fast. For India's consumer internet... more

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"We have 353 billion data points on user behaviour. Why wouldn't I use them to make a better story and get into newer businesses within content?"

That's Kunj Sanghvi, the vice president and head of content at Kuku, explaining their next big bet on t... more

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Your next job offer might just come with a "token budget" line item. 

The idea has been gaining steam in Silicon Valley. In February, a VC named Tomasz Tunguz dropped a blog post arguing that inference costs are becoming the fourth pillar of enginee... more

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Recent Guests

Afra Wang
Writer behind Concurrent; co-host of a Mandarin language podcast CyberPink
Concurrent; CyberPink
Episode: China built AI differently than the US. Can India do the same?
Muralikrishnan B
President, Xiaomi India (former); has PhD on how platforms create lock-in
Xiaomi India
Episode: Zero Shot Live: Who will survive Agentic AI in India?
Amod Malviya
CTO of Flipkart until 2015; co-founder of Udaan; founder of Pre6
Flipkart, Udaan, Pre6
Episode: Zero Shot Live: Who will survive Agentic AI in India?
Anant Choubey
Co-founder and COO of Capillary
Capillary
Episode: Zero Shot Live: Who will survive Agentic AI in India?
Thomas Fenn
Co-founder of Mahabelly; Joint Secretary of the National Restaurant Association of India
Mahabelly, National Restaurant Association of India
Episode: Zero Shot Live: Who will survive Agentic AI in India?
Kunj Sanghvi
Head of content at Kuku FM
Kuku FM
Episode: Kuku used AI to crack micro dramas. It is now coming for Bollywood
Akash Anand
Co-founder and CEO of Clueso
Clueso
Episode: Salary, Bonus, Equity… Tokens?
Kevin Xu
Writer and analyst focused on tech policy and open source; former GitHub international expansion lead; author of Interconnected
Independent; The Ken contributor
Episode: The AI agent era has started in China. It looks different from anywhere else
Samir Gandhi
Competition-law expert, co-founder of Axiom5
Axiom5
Episode: India’s biggest B2B marketplace takes OpenAI to court

Hosts

Brady Ng
Host with recurring presence and co-host roles across multiple episodes.
Praveen Gopal Krishnan
Co-host and frequent participant; deep involvement in show discussions.
Rohin Dharmakumar
Co-host and lead Pancake-based discussion contributor; provides enterprise and AI industry perspective.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 28 ratings
  • Brevity is the soul of subscription

    Great insights but you guys have to figure out how to compact it the way the Economist and others do. Otherwise the incisive ideas get lost in all the convoluted chatter.

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    Nair DA
    India2 months ago
  • Bold and investigative with first principles

    Talk is on what’s incentivising the actions in AI and the bigger business interplay. Focus on what’s happened at macro level for india, China and USA

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ak_rulz
    India3 months ago
  • Interesting conversations on AI

    What I particularly like about Zero shot is it’s not a traditional Q&A or reading out headlines from International newspaper, rather it’s free flow discussion among 3 intellectually curious hosts which makes it interesting and also fun at the same time.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Curious_Idiot
    India5 months ago

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Bold and investigative with first principles and macro AI focus.
Great insights but the show could benefit from tighter editing to keep ideas crisp.
Not traditional Q&A—free-flow discussions among three curious hosts feel fresh and engaging.

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China built AI differently than the US. Can India do the same?
Q: What does the example of a luggage factory using AI tell us about real-world deployment in China versus the US?
Afra and her co-hosts discuss how a Chinese leather factory uses AI image recognition to map cowhide flaws and generate optimal cutting paths, illustrating how available industries and data work enable AI solutions that may not exist in the US market, underscoring that AI deployment is highly contextual to local supply chains and capabilities.
China built AI differently than the US. Can India do the same?
Q: Can you briefly introduce the China OS vs. America OS concept and why you wrote the updated 2026 version?
Afra explains that the piece uses an operating-system analogy to highlight how two nations run different governance, talent, and cultural systems, and why naive one-to-one mappings fail; she credits the idea to observations from her circle and co-authors, emphasizing that power, energy, talent, and sovereignty shape AI ecosystems distinctly.
Salary, Bonus, Equity… Tokens?
Q: How do you handle token budgets in practice at Clueso, especially across engineers, designers, and sales?
We monitor monthly spend, incentivize productive use rather than sheer consumption, allow experimentation, and use project updates to contextualize why tokens were spent and what value was created.
Salary, Bonus, Equity… Tokens?
Q: Akash, do you think about tokens the way a previous generation of founders thought about AWS bills?
Yes, tokens are now a central cost driver; as teams scale, token budgets grow with the organization and must be budgeted and tracked just like AWS spend, but the relationship to value is more nuanced due to variability in what tokens actually enable.
India’s biggest B2B marketplace takes OpenAI to court
Q: What governance challenges do regulators face with AI-driven markets?
Regulators must balance encouraging innovation with preventing anti-competitive behavior, determine responsibility for AI-generated outcomes, and decide when to impose ex-ante rules versus waiting for market evolution.

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A thoughtful, forward-looking tech discussion that centers on artificial intelligence from multiple angles: regulatory and competitive dynamics, enterprise tooling, and AI-enabled business models. Episodes frequently feature guests from law, startups, and large tech organizations to unpack how AI stacks, data ownership, pricing shifts, and policy developments intersect with real-world product and market strategy. Notable is the willingness to connect macro shifts in AI with concrete industry outcomes—from Indian regulatory cases to enterprise tool governance and the evolution of AI-native startups. Listeners likely gain practical perspectives for pitching guests, sponsoring opportunities, or identifying sponsorship-ready topics tied to AI a... more

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2. Muralikrishnan B
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