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Zero Click Marketing

Amanda Natividad
Zero Click Marketing
Sparktoro
Google
Marketing
Content Marketing
Linkedin
Audience Research
Generative Engine Optimization
Emotional Targeting
AI Visibility
SEO
Amazon
Reddit
Best Practices
Gated Content
Chatgpt
Off-Platform Distribution
AI In Search
B2B
Retrievability and Extractability

Zero Click Marketing is a marketing strategy podcast about content marketing, audience research, and how brands grow when clicks matter less. Hosted by Amanda Natividad, Chief Evangelist at SparkToro, the show explores how marketers reach audiences, build influence, and earn attention in a zero-click internet. New to the show? Start with Episode 2: What Zero Click Marketing Actually Is.

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This is what marketing looks like when perfect attribution isn't possible — and why that may actually be freeing. I chat with Rachel Elsts Downey, founder of Share Your Genius, to discuss podcasting as a business strategy, measuring what actually mat... more

I chat with my buddy Kevin Indig about what he’s learning in his AI research, along with generative engine optimization, and user behavior in tools like ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and Google AI Mode.

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In this Field Notes episode, Amanda looks at new research from Similarweb on the downstream impact of AI visibility, plus Seer Interactive’s argument that AI visibility isn’t just an SEO issue — it also affects paid media, brand, and attribution.

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When AI puts your brand in the wrong category or compares you to the wrong competitors, it's tempting to dismiss it as a hallucination. But what if AI's mistakes reveal something about how the market understands you? I suggest why AI visibility isn't... more

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Rachel Elsts Downey
Small business owner and founder of Share Your Genius (podcast/agency)
Share Your Genius
Episode: How Smart Small Businesses Measure Marketing (with Rachel Elsts Downey)
Kevin Indig
SEO and growth leader, researcher in AI and marketing
Senior Director of SEO at Rain
Episode: Trust Is the New SEO: Marketing in the AI Era (with Kevin Indig)
Jay Acunzo
Speaker, podcaster, and author
Independent/Self-employed
Episode: Public Speaking is the Ultimate Zero-Click Marketing (with Jay Acunzo)
Kaleigh Moore
Writer and content strategy expert with background in ecommerce and AI-focused content
Episode: The Content Strategy Frameworks AI Can't Beat (with Kaleigh Moore)
Talia Wolf
Conversion optimization expert and founder of GetUplift
GetUplift
Episode: Why B2B Is MORE Emotional Than B2C (with Talia Wolf)
Ross Simmonds
Founder of Foundation Inc
Foundation Inc
Episode: ZCM Field Notes: Search Is Now an Evidence Game (Ugh, Thanks, AI)
Cyrus Shepard
Founder of Zyppy Signal
Zyppy Signal
Episode: ZCM Field Notes: Search Is Now an Evidence Game (Ugh, Thanks, AI)
Will Reynolds
Founder/CEO at Seer Interactive
Seer Interactive
Episode: ZCM Field Notes: Search Is Now an Evidence Game (Ugh, Thanks, AI)
Brendan Hufford
SEO and marketing educator; creator known for content marketing evolution
Episode: From Old-School SEO to Zero Click Marketing (with Brendan Hufford)

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Amanda Natividad
Host of Zero Click Marketing

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 34 ratings
  • Must listen for marketers

    Amanda is one of the smartest minds I know in the world of marketing and this show is so good it shouldn’t be free! Plus the audio is SO CRISPY👏

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KMoore86
    United Statesa month ago
  • Jargon-free, information-dense

    This is one of those rare shows that avoids buzzwords and focuses on real learning. Great for marketing veterans and beginners alike. I love it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ian Lurie
    United States2 months ago
  • More of this please

    I spend a lot of time in the world of emotional marketing, so it’s refreshing to get into the weeds of how things actually work.

    It got me thinking differently about paid, attribution, and how we actually measure impact. Not just theory either. Real, practical takeaways I can apply right away.

    If you’re new to marketing, start here. Even if you’re not, it’ll still challenge your thinking.

    We need more of this.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Nickrezendes
    United States4 months ago
  • Essential Marketing Insights

    Amanda’s original analysis of how marketing works in 2026 — or if you’re seeing this in 2027, 2028 and beyond— is grounded in traditional, common sense ideas that are overlooked because they seem so traditional. But Amanda finds ways of teasing out new truths and strategies from the tried and true. And that’s how she uncovers what’s next and how to approach it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DavidK.
    United States4 months ago
  • Finally, a work podcast I look forward to

    I really like listening to business podcasts but most of them are too long. It’s hard to commit to them when really, I’d rather be watching Good Hang. I just really love how short and efficient this show is. Amanda clearly puts a lot of thought and research into each ep so it’s easily worth the 15 or so minutes.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    startlingmacaron
    United States4 months ago

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Practical, not theory-heavy; emphasizes real takeaways and paid/attribution thinking.
Jargon-free, information-dense culture of learning, great for veterans and beginners alike.
Strong host expertise and practical frameworks with credible examples.
Thoughtful critiques of marketing signals and audience-focused content; useful for understanding modern measurement.
Compact, efficient episodes that fit into busy schedules and still deliver insight.

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The Content Strategy Frameworks AI Can't Beat (with Kaleigh Moore)
Q: What practical steps can companies take to scale employee advocacy without it feeling like a solo CEO effort?
Identify 3-5 engaged employees who have strong opinions and time, provide a framework for content creation, train them with journalism-style interviewing, and repurpose session content into multiple posts or long-form content across channels.
The Content Strategy Frameworks AI Can't Beat (with Kaleigh Moore)
Q: What is the key framework you use to guide content quality in an AI-first world?
The source signal stack, which includes context, author expertise, data referenced, and especially third-party validation, helps brands create content that is credible and valuable beyond just SEO basics.
The Content Strategy Frameworks AI Can't Beat (with Kaleigh Moore)
Q: How did you start approaching this world of AI and content development?
I started by giving myself one project a week, listening to podcasts, learning the glossary, and gradually becoming competent with new tools and names that clients mentioned most often, then applying what I learned in a structured, hands-on way.
From Old-School SEO to Zero Click Marketing (with Brendan Hufford)
Q: What makes Zero Click Marketing effective in B2B, and how do you measure its impact?
Amanda and Brendan discuss self-reported attribution, the limitations of last-click models, and using dashboards (like DreamData) to map multiple touchpoints and observe how newsletter readers convert faster or more fully within longer sales cycles.
From Old-School SEO to Zero Click Marketing (with Brendan Hufford)
Q: How did your approach to marketing evolve over time from SEO to zero click marketing?
Brendan explains that he moved from focusing on SEO alone to building audiences and content ecosystems (newsletter, LinkedIn, podcast) that generate demand through education and engagement, rather than relying on traditional keyword-centric strategies.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Zero Click Marketing

What is Zero Click Marketing about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on practical marketing strategies that prioritize audience insight and credible, research-backed concepts over traditional click-driven metrics. Across episodes, listeners hear candid discussions about emotional targeting in B2B, shrinking marketing stacks, gated content in a zero-click era, and how to structure content for AI-enabled discovery. A recurring theme is building trust, measuring influence beyond last-click attribution, and shaping the public record with verifiable evidence. Notable standouts include field-tested frameworks, real-world case studies, and a clear emphasis on audience-first approaches that blend research, storytelling, and product thinking. The format often features guest experts who bring hands-on... more

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1. Rachel Elsts Downey
2. Kevin Indig
3. Jay Acunzo
4. Kaleigh Moore
5. Talia Wolf
6. Ross Simmonds
7. Cyrus Shepard
8. Will Reynolds

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