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DSR's Words Matter

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American politics is undergoing seismic changes that will alter the course of history. At Words Matter, we believe that facts, evidence, truth and objective reality are necessary and vital in public discourse. Our hosts and guests have broad experience in government, politics and journalism -- this gives them a unique ability to explain recent events and place them in historic context. Together, w... more

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The current government shutdown is unlike any we have seen before. President Trump is turning this into a political assault on blue states, energy projects, infrastructure projects, and more. What does this shutdown really mean for our democracy? Whe... more

Make no mistake - we are headed towards a government shutdown and it is a strategic move from the Trump administration. So what are the Democrats doing to avert a disaster? What does this signify about the current political landscape in America and w... more

“This is a 10,000-meter race to a full-blown police state, and they’re picking up speed.” The Trump administration is using the Charlie Kirk assassination as a tool to attack free speech at an alarming rate. Under the guise of “hate speech,” Trump an... more

Yesterday, on September 10th, 2025, Charlie Kirk was assassinated. Today, September 11th, marks the 24th anniversary of the largest terrorist attack in U.S. history. Laurie Garrett joins David Rothkopf and Norm Ornstein in a sincere conversation to m... more

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Jeremy Konyndyk
President of Refugees International, former senior official at USAID
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Miles Taylor
Former Chief of Staff of the Department of Homeland Security
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Leah Litman
Professor at the University of Michigan Law School and author of the book 'Lawless'
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Josh Marshall
Founder of Talking Points Memo (TPM), a political journalism site
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Dahlia Lithwick
A leading commentator and analyst on legal affairs
Episode: Three Bullets to the Heart of the Constitution
Dr. Kavita Patel
Medical doctor and political commentator
Episode: Special Three Alarm Emergency Debate Episode
Norm Ornstein
Political scientist and commentator
Episode: Special Three Alarm Emergency Debate Episode

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David Rothkopf
Host of DSR's Words Matter and Deep State Radio, offering insights into American politics and government through extensive experience in journalism and administration.
Norm Ornstein
Co-host of Words Matter, political analyst, and commentator with deep expertise in governance and electoral processes.

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4.6 out of 5 stars from 3.1k ratings
  • June 20 pod

    Hello Norm from SLP. Thanks for your words in the latest podcast. It gave substance/voice to not just the outrage we feel in MN about the deaths of Melissa and Mark Hortman — but the real sorrow. We are all “close by” — I am not alone in having relationships to residents of every single community that was targeted that night. And we all still do talk to our neighbors, including about politics — even this past week. But what sadness.

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    From Flyover Country
    United States3 months ago
  • Thank you for being real

    Thank you for telling it like it is. Priceless.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MBCal85
    United States5 months ago
  • Truth!

    Thank you for telling the truth!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Democracy is my Religion
    United States5 months ago
  • Yes

    This is a great show! Love Norm & Kevita! Very invaluable information, and a great perspective.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Taralainee
    United Statesa year ago
  • Put some lead on the pedal.

    No idea who co-host Kavita is but she takes FOREVER to say something. I find female (which I am one) speakers on podcasts, etc. tend to speak much more hesitantly and under-confidently than their male cohorts. It’s a societal thing, of course. But, women, we won’t change things until we change things. Especially in a public role (i.e. a model for others), PLEASE embrace your thoughts and beliefs and then express them forthrightly!

    Apple Podcasts
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    makeupmyname
    United Statesa year ago

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DSR: Hard Truths About the Hell of Gaza
Q: Is there a master plan regarding the situation in Gaza?
Netanyahu may not have a master plan but seems to pursue policies that maintain his political coalition's demands.
DSR: Hard Truths About the Hell of Gaza
Q: What is the rationale behind the blockade on Gaza?
The blockade is aimed at putting pressure on Hamas to surrender, but it effectively punishes the civilian population.
Lawless: How The Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes
Q: Are we witnessing the worst of the Supreme Court now, or is there more to come?
Litman firmly states that we are likely not yet seeing the worst and foresees additional troubling rulings ahead.
Lawless: How The Supreme Court Runs on Conservative Grievance, Fringe Theories, and Bad Vibes
Q: What do you think about the recent court decisions regarding tariffs?
Litman believes the decisions are good in preventing presidential overreach, but expresses concern over the court's lack of consistency in addressing lawfulness.
American Pain
Q: Is that true about the 30-day continuing resolution?
It would be true if they go forward and allow a vote on cloture, but a significant number of Democrats are against it.

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Episodes often revolve around the current political climate in America, with a strong emphasis on issues like free speech, democracy, and government accountability. Hosts typically engage in thoughtful discussions regarding the implications of political actions on different social issues, particularly focusing on the Trump administration and its policies. The podcast features insights from a variety of experts, which enhances the analysis of complex subjects like censorship, political violence, and civil liberties, making it a key source for listeners seeking to understand the broader context of political controversies and trends.

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1. Jeremy Konyndyk
2. Miles Taylor
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4. Josh Marshall
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7. Norm Ornstein

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