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The Oath and The Office

Two Squared Media Productions
Donald Trump
Supreme Court
Constitution
Democracy
Civil Rights
Ice
First Amendment
Birthright Citizenship
Voting Rights Act
Christian Nationalism
Executive Power
Gerrymandering
Civil Liberties
January 6th
Trump Administration
Constitutional Rights
Minnesota
Insurrection Act
Jeffrey Epstein
Due Process

Mixing sharp wit and serious political fire, The Oath and The Office is where hard-hitting constitutional analysis meets razor-sharp comedy. Distinguished political science professor Corey Brettschneider teams up with comedian John Fugelsang to break down the most powerful 35 words in American democracy—the presidential oath of office. Every president swears to “preserve, protect, and defend” the ... more

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Trump’s Justice Department subpoenaed New York Times reporters after they exposed security problems with the Qatari jet Trump accepted for use as Air Force One. The prosecutor who issued those subpoenas, Jay Clayton, is now Trump’s nominee to lead th... more

Trump’s latest financial disclosure points to something far bigger than another ethics scandal: a presidency being used as a vehicle for private financial gain. From crypto windfalls and foreign-linked deals to branding revenue, settlements, and the ... more

The Supreme Court dealt Trump a major defeat by rejecting his effort to end birthright citizenship. It also refused to let him fire the head of the Federal Reserve. But in the same week, the Court handed him sweeping new authority by allowing preside... more

Katie Phang joins The Oath and the Office to discuss her legal fight to force Trump’s DOJ to release the Epstein files. This is not about money. It is about whether Trump’s DOJ can defy the law and keep records from the public.

Phang explains how sh... more

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Ron Wyden
Senator from Oregon, interview guest
U.S. Senate
Episode: Trump Targets the Press—and Spies on Americans (with Sen. Ron Wyden)
Glenn Kirschner
Legal commentator and podcaster
Justice Matters (guest)
Episode: Trump’s $2.2 Billion Presidency: The Corruption the Constitution Saw Coming
Joyce Vance
Former US Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama, law professor at University of Alabama School of Law
University of Alabama / former US Attorney
Episode: Trump Loses Birthright, Wins a Power Grab (with Joyce Vance)
Katie Phang
MSNBC host and legal analyst specializing in transparency and accountability
MSNBC
Episode: Trump’s DOJ Is Hiding the Epstein Files. Katie Phang Is Suing.
Harry Litman
Former Deputy Assistant Attorney General; host of Talking Feds
Legal commentator
Episode: Trump’s War on Habeas Corpus and DOJ Independence — with Harry Litman
Andrew Glazer
Filmmaker and director of Spring of the Vanishing
Spring of the Vanishing (film)
Episode: Trump’s Imperial Presidency: Bogus Charges and Foreign Wars
Jodi Kantor
Reporter at the New York Times, Pulitzer Prize winner
New York Times
Episode: The Secret Memos Behind the Supreme Court’s Shadow Docket (with Jodi Kantor)
Cecilia Wang
ACLU National Legal Director
ACLU
Episode: Can Trump Undo Our Citizenship Rights? (with ACLU’s Cecilia Wang)
Kate Shaw
Professor of Law, University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School
University of Pennsylvania
Episode: The Supreme Court’s Assault on Our Rights (with Kate Shaw)

Hosts

John Fugelsang
Host of The Oath and The Office; comedian with experience in political commentary and media
Corey Brettschneider
Constitutional law professor and co-host; frequent guest in political science and law discussions

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 761 ratings
  • The end of the VRA, the Supreme Court sucks

    Your podcast has become one of my favorites. You inform and entertain, perfect. The 5-4 Podcast does the same, I would love for you to have them on your show sometime. Thank you, for what you do. From the last liberal redneck in Tennessee.

    Audible
    4
    heather
    United States2 months ago
  • Exceptional

    I'm always impressed by the comprehensive knowledge presented in these podcast episodes. I very much appreciate the background work to bring us these succinct presentations. Thank you.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Shel Lynn
    United States3 months ago
  • Great Show

    I always learn so much from this podcast. Your guests are great! And some old ladies like me listen to Aaron Parnas.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cjspicecat
    United States3 months ago
  • Excellent

    Keep up the good work!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    athenavasia
    United States3 months ago
  • Listen to learn

    Two great kind people giving me knowledge that I don’t know I was lacking. Love this podcast so freaking much!!!!

    Still is my favorite week after week. You two are amazing. Thank you so much.

    Apple Podcasts
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    Canada4 months ago

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Trump Loses Birthright, Wins a Power Grab (with Joyce Vance)
Q: What does the birthright citizenship ruling mean for the practical understanding of citizenship in the United States?
The ruling reinforces that birth in the U.S. generally makes one a citizen under the 14th Amendment, with only a narrow exception, which the hosts interpret as a rebuke to attempts to strip citizenship via executive action and a prompt for Congress to consider further clarifications if needed.
Trump’s Imperial Presidency: Bogus Charges and Foreign Wars
Q: What constitutional mechanisms exist to stop a determined president from escalating military action without Congress?
The War Powers Act and related congressional authorities provide the framework for demanding accountability and potentially halting actions, but the hosts note that effective enforcement requires active Congress and judiciary involvement, as well as public pressure.
Can Trump Undo Our Citizenship Rights? (with ACLU’s Cecilia Wang)
Q: Historically, how rare is denaturalization as a political tool in this country?
Denaturalization is presented as an authoritarian tool and a stark violation of the right to have rights; the discussion emphasizes that, historically, denaturalization has been used selectively and cautiously but remains a serious threat, especially when fueled by political agendas.
Is Trump Committing War Crimes? Lawrence Douglas on Hegseth, Nuremberg, and the Criminal State
Q: What are the four core international crimes Douglas emphasizes, and how did Nuremberg redefine war as a crime?
Douglas explains aggression (crimes against peace), war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide, noting that Nuremberg made aggression a central international crime and later recognized genocide as a separate crime via the Genocide Convention, while crimes against humanity emerged as a concept during Nuremberg.
Before Project 2025: How the Right Built Trump’s Power Grab (with David Sirota)
Q: What concrete steps could future presidents take to balance strong leadership with safeguarding democracy?
Pursue targeted but durable policy changes through statute rather than relying solely on executive orders, pursue public financing of elections to reduce donor influence, and reform or overturn problematic precedents like Citizens United to constrain political spending; emphasize transparency and accountability in independent agencies.

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Sharp, informed, and entertaining conversations about constitutional law, democracy, and current political power dynamics. The show blends rigorous legal analysis with humor to unpack how the oath to defend the Constitution is tested by modern governance, executive overreach, and threats to the rule of law. Guests range from scholars to journalists and legal experts, providing historical context and practical implications for policy, media, and civil rights. Notable for its clear explanations, accessible debates, and a balanced yet pointed critique of power, making it a strong pick for listeners who want substantive civics content delivered with wit.

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1. Ron Wyden
2. Glenn Kirschner
3. Joyce Vance
4. Katie Phang
5. Harry Litman
6. Andrew Glazer
7. Jodi Kantor
8. Cecilia Wang

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