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What’s The Plan is one of America’s largest live, participatory political conversations, designed to inform, mobilize, and grow the pro-democracy movement. A weekly guide to the state of democracy and how we fight back against authoritarian threats in the United States. Hosted by Leah Greenberg and Ezra Levin, Co-founders of Indivisible. What’s The Plan isn’t punditry, it’s people-powered politic... more

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Authoritarians win by spreading fear and confusion. Sure, there’s plenty to worry about when we’ve got a fascist in the White House threatening his opponents and promising October sabotage surprises. But we’re going to make a go at NOT giving Trump w... more

The Trump regime is trying to fearmonger its way to an electoral win. Our challenge is to take the threat seriously and act with confidence, without handing the regime power it doesn’t have or feeding the cynicism that demotivates our side. In this e... more

How do you flip a red state in a blue wave? From Texas to Iowa to Kansas to Florida, a blue wave appears to be building this fall that could transform American politics for years to come. In this episode, we talk to one of the most prominent wave bui... more

How do you stop an authoritarian with a mass movement? What strategies and tactics have actually worked, here in the U.S. and abroad? We ask one of the best teachers on the subject: Erica Chenoweth, the Harvard professor known for research on politic... more

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Recent Guests

Angie Nixon
Florida Senate candidate; organizer; Florida for All member
Florida politics / Indivisible affiliate
Episode: How a red state flips in a blue wave w/ Angie Nixon
Erica Chenoweth
Harvard professor and expert on authoritarianism, nonviolent social movements and civil resistance
Harvard Kennedy School
Episode: How a movement can check an authoritarian, w/ Erica Chenoweth
Celinda Lake
Leading Democratic pollster, partner at Lake Research Partners
Lake Research Partners
Episode: How to Message in Battleground States w/ Celinda Lake
Elie Mystal
Justice Correspondent for The Nation; author of Allow Me to Retort and Bad Law
The Nation
Episode: How to Fix This MAGA Supreme Court w/ Elie Mystal
Patrick Roath
Indivisible candidate, grassroots fighter, public interest lawyer
Indivisible (Massachusetts 8th)
Episode: How to Dislodge an Entitled Do-Nothing Incumbent w/ Patrick Roath
Peggy Flanagan
Lieutenant Governor of Minnesota
Minnesota State Government
Episode: How to Build a Pro-Democracy Media Diet (plus Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan!)
Jarrett Keohokalole
State Senator, Hawaii
Hawaii State Senate
Episode: How to Actually End Citizens United w/ Jarrett Keohokalole
Justin J. Pearson
Tennessee state representative and congressional candidate
Memphis community organizing, Tennessee politics
Episode: How to defeat the neo-confederacy w/ Justin J. Pearson
Ben McKenzie
Actor, author, documentary filmmaker and crypto critic
Independent (crypto critic)
Episode: How to Fight the Biggest SuperPAC in Politics w/ Ben McKenzie

Hosts

Leah Greenberg
Host of What's The Plan? and co-executive director of Indivisible
Ezra Levin
Host of What's The Plan? and co-executive director of Indivisible

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 580 ratings
  • Essential to sanity in the current moment

    Even if you can’t be actively involved on a regular basis listening to this podcast will add to your understanding of the current moment and help you locate yourself in the longer term struggle . Very high morale while totally reality based.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jhm--ATL
    United Statesa month ago
  • Must listen to

    If you are searching for ways to save our country from the devastation being ravished on us, listen to Leah and Ezra. They are grounded in reality and have plans of action!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    artemis179
    United Statesa month ago
  • Be INDIVISIBLE!

    This podcast calls to action all whose sense of freedom and justice, truth and respect, love and wonder has been shaken, if not taken from them in today’s America. We are not alone. In unity we shall overcome.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    1 4 O O 4 1
    United Statesa month ago
  • Keep hope alive with an action plan.

    This is just what I needed to keep hope alive.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MyWedge
    United Statesa month ago
  • Weekly Copium

    This is my weekly fix to give me hope. Leah and Ezra are both great, but what gives me the most hope is the number of people working together to bring about a better future. This crowd is working toward getting the right leaders in place to fight fascism and live up to the promise of this country. Getting back to Leah and Ezra, they are truly great, inspirational young leaders for our time, and their realistic positivity is a breath of fresh air.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    CollinFord
    United Statesa month ago

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Empowering discussions that make listeners feel capable of contributing.
Inspiring community and ongoing engagement through live actions and campaigns.
Clear, practical guidance for taking action to defend democracy.
Strategic, hopeful, and action-focused with broad guest expertise.
Energetic hosts who translate complex politics into doable steps.

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Talking Points

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How Trump Is Trying to Fearmonger His Way to a Win
Q: How can individuals participate if they are new to election protection work?
Identify local needs, start with simple roles like volunteering for election protection trainings, and join existing local groups; build connections with ACLU and immigrant rights organizations to be ready before threats appear.
How Trump Is Trying to Fearmonger His Way to a Win
Q: What should we do to address partisan concerns around ICE at the polls while keeping No Kings nonpartisan?
Make it clear that the focus is on protecting voters and communities, not endorsing any political candidate; emphasize nonpartisan actions like voter protection and turnout, and train local organizers to respond to threats without taking sides.
How a movement can check an authoritarian, w/ Erica Chenoweth
Q: If Democrats win big in November but still face governance hurdles, what can be done on day one to impact people's lives?
Focus on state-level affirmative policy and establish clear connections between national leadership and lived costs, while using subpoenas and oversight to demonstrate ongoing opposition to corruption, aiming to maintain momentum and pressure across branches over time.
How a movement can check an authoritarian, w/ Erica Chenoweth
Q: What makes messaging at No Kings events nonpartisan, and how should hosts handle partisan signs or subject matter at rallies?
Hosts should frame events around getting out the vote and defending the vote, while clearly distinguishing nonpartisan organizing from endorsements; when signs become partisan, provide guidance and examples to clarify what is allowed, and maintain a focus on vote protection rather than promoting a specific candidate or party.
How a red state flips in a blue wave w/ Angie Nixon
Q: What should listeners do next to support No Kings and the pro-democracy movement?
Listeners are encouraged to join No Kings, participate in October 17 events, volunteer on the ground (canvassing, phones, text), and donate to sustain grassroots organizing.

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A fast-moving, action-oriented politics show focused on defending democracy and countering authoritarian trends. Episodes center on grassroots organizing, electoral integrity, campaign strategy, and coalition-building, often featuring organizers, local politicians, and reform-minded voices who explain practical steps listeners can take—from voter protection trainings to fundraising and candidate support. A standout aspect is the concrete, people-powered approach: clear calls to action, weekly tactical updates, and real-world examples from campaigns and movement-building across the country.

The program often combines sharp political analysis with tactical how-tos, leveraging guest expertise to illuminate pressing issues like voting rights, ... more

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2. Erica Chenoweth
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