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We Can Work It Out

Dr Jonathan Lord
Labour Revolt
Trade Unions
Workers' Rights
Women's Participation In Strikes
Working Class
Left Politics
Britain
Suffragettes
Collective Bargaining
Labour Movements
Lloyd George
Trade Unionism
Britain Labour Law
P&O Ferries
National Coal Mining Museum For England
Women's Rights Movement
Industrial Strikes
Health and Safety
Labor Dispute
Employment Rights Bill

Hello and welcome to We Can Work It Out — the podcast that explores the history, present and future of workers’ rights.

I’m your host, Dr Jonathan Lord: in each episode we’ll be delving into the stories, struggles and successes that have shaped working lives. From friendly societies to people management- we welcome academics, activist’s, trade unionist’s, policymakers and workers themselves to hel... more

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In this episode of the We Can Work It Out podcast, I speak with Professor Gregor Gall, one of the most influential scholars of industrial relations in the UK, to move beyond the media image and examine the deeper story behind Mick Lynch, not as a car... more

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In this episode of We Can Work It Out, we are joined by leading scholars Professor Rebecca Zahn and Professor Miriam Kullmann. We explore how exile, gender, and the hidden labour of academia shaped not only one career, but the foundations of British ... more

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In this powerful episode of We Can Work It Out, we mark four years since the mass dismissal of 786 seafarers by P&O Ferries—an event that continues to reverberate across the maritime sector and beyond.

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In the newest episode of the We Can Work It Out podcast takes us to the picket line at the National Coal Mining Museum for England, where workers supported by UNISON have been engaged in a prolonged industrial dispute.

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Dave Scott
Guide here, former fitter with deep mining industry background
National Coal Mining Museum for England (staff)
Episode: Episode 8- Holding the Line Underground: Voices from the Coal Mining Museum Strike
Glenn Bryan
Tour guide, operator and former miner
National Coal Mining Museum for England
Episode: Episode 8- Holding the Line Underground: Voices from the Coal Mining Museum Strike
Adam Temple
Unison Whitefield District Communications Officer
Unison
Episode: Episode 8- Holding the Line Underground: Voices from the Coal Mining Museum Strike
Iftikhar Ahmad
International labour law scholar, policy advisor, founder of the Centre for Labour Research
Centre for Labour Research / WageIndicator Foundation
Episode: Episode 7- The Islamic Labour Code with Iftikhar Ahmad and Asghar Jameel
Asghar Jameel
Global HR leader, management scholar, co-author of the Islamic Labour Code
VEON Group (Chief People Officer)
Episode: Episode 7- The Islamic Labour Code with Iftikhar Ahmad and Asghar Jameel
John Lansdown
Former P&O seafarer and witness to the 17 March 2022 dismissals
Former P&O Ferries crew
Episode: Episode 6 - The P&O Ferries Purge Through a Seafarer’s Eyes with John Lansdown
Susan Corby
Emeritus Professor of Employment Relations, University of Greenwich; former union official and tribunal practitioner
University of Greenwich
Episode: Episode 5 - UK Employment Tribunal History with Professor Susan Corby
Douglas Brodie
Professor of Labour Law; Associate Principal and Dean of Humanities and Social Sciences at the University of Strathclyde
University of Strathclyde
Episode: Episode 4- A History of British Labour Law, 1867–1945 with Professor Douglas Brodie
Professor Richard Hyman
Emeritus Professor of Industrial Relations at the London School of Economics, known for his contributions to labor studies and industrial relations.
London School of Economics
Episode: Episode 3 - Why Power Still Matters: Professor Richard Hyman on the Past, Present, & Future of Work

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Episode 4- A History of British Labour Law, 1867–1945 with Professor Douglas Brodie
Q: What is the role of courts in relation to rising collective organization and unions?
The guest details how judicial responses varied, with volatility across decades, and how landmark cases influenced the balance between union rights and employer interests, shaping enforcement and rights over time.
Episode 4- A History of British Labour Law, 1867–1945 with Professor Douglas Brodie
Q: What were the main characteristics of the master and servant framework before 1867, and why was reform so urgent?
The discussion notes the punitive, criminal elements of the old regime and how the regime used strikes to suppress workers, underscoring the need for reform toward a fairer balance in industrial relations.
Episode 4- A History of British Labour Law, 1867–1945 with Professor Douglas Brodie
Q: Why did you start your book with 1867, and what makes that a defining moment in the legal regulation of work?
He explains the 1867 start tied to the Royal Commission that led to the 1870 Trade Union Act, marking the beginning of the modern framework for unions and the evolution of labour law.
Episode 4- A History of British Labour Law, 1867–1945 with Professor Douglas Brodie
Q: Can you tell us a little bit more about yourself and how you became to work in academia and become a leading scholar around labour law?
The guest describes a fortunate start in academia in the early 1980s, the influence of mentors like Keith Ewing, and the formative impact of early labour law texts, which shaped his career and ongoing research in labour regulation.
Episode 5 - UK Employment Tribunal History with Professor Susan Corby
Q: What were the main aims of the Industrial Training Act in 1965, and how did tribunals begin to reflect or diverge from that intent?
She describes the act as administrative convenience rather than radical reform, with tribunals initially focused on specific administrative matters and gradually expanding their remit, including employee disputes starting in 1972.

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This show concentrates on workers' rights, labor history, and the evolving dynamics between unions, policy, and workplace culture. Across recent episodes the conversations span historic labor movements, courtroom and tribunal evolution, and high-profile employment disputes, with special attention to how policy, legality, and organizational strategy shape fair work in practice. A recurring strength is connecting historical struggles to contemporary issues—such as living wages, gig economy classifications, and protections against dismissals—through thoughtful interviews with researchers, practitioners, and insiders from unions, law, and industry. The format often centers on deep-dive storytelling, first-hand accounts, and expert analysis that... more

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