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NEW in Understand - The Growth Conundrum

Every UK government says it wants strong and sustained economic growth. But for almost 20 years none have managed it. Ben Chu asks why generating growth seems so difficult?

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In Episode 3 of The Growth Conundrum Ben Chu assesses the UK's underlying economic strengths and the size and nature of the opportunities to be found in sectors such as Artificial Intelligence and life sciences - and asks whether a big part of the so... more

In recent decades the UK's growth has been deeply disappointing by its own historical standards. But some countries are booming. In the second episode of The Growth Conundrum BBC Verify's Policy and Analysis Correspondent, Ben Chu travels to Poland t... more

Economic growth is something every UK government, up to and including the current one, claims to want above all else. But for almost 20 years, not a single one has been able to deliver sustained national economic expansion. BBC Verify's Policy and An... more

Every UK government, up to and including the current one, claims to want to achieve economic growth. But for almost 20 years not a single one has delivered sustained economic expansion. BBC Verify's Policy and Analysis Correspondent, Ben Chu asks why... more

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Paul Johnson
Former Director of the Institute for Fiscal Studies and Chief Economist of the Prosperity Alliance
Prosperity Alliance
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Rain Newton-Smith
Chief Executive of the CBI
CBI
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Luke Trill
Polling specialist at More In Common
More In Common
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Norman Lamont
Former Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer from 1990 to 1993
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Jim O'Neill
Crossbench peer and informal economic adviser to Andy Burnham
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Jeremy Hunt
Former Chancellor of the Exchequer
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Bob Kleber
Consultant paediatrician and Director of Strategy Research and Innovation at Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust
Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Kate Lelesi
Managing Director for Google in the UK and Ireland
Google
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Diane Coyle
Bennett Professor of Public Policy at Cambridge University
University of Cambridge
Episode: The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up

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Michael Rosen
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Ros Atkins
Host of The Value Crisis series.

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 510 ratings
  • Seven Ages of Man - excellent

    As a man in his early 60s, I found this series extremely interesting: an engaging presenter and a good range of subjects, who gave cause for reflections about the past and hope for the future.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    paulmq
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • Your podcast brought me a lot of joy. A fantastic talented woman

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    5
    Nissim Cohen
    4 months ago
  • Love and hate

    Love the subject matter shame all podcasts are split into 15min and then have to listen to the promos for other irrelevant podcasts

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    Frogslegs1
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • Tim Hayward or Tim Harford?

    The show is billed as one Tim on the BBC podcast menu and show description, however it’s actually by another Tim, regardless it’s an excellent show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Eldo19998
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • How to rate Understand? It consists of multiple series, each of varying quality, but usually above average. The same can be said of its individual episodes. The aim of Understand is to document the UK's post- Cold War consensus and resultant decline. Post-WW1, it was called the Great Depression, and Churchill kicked Britain out of that. After WW2, it was unionised sclerosis, and Thatcher kicked Britain out of that. Following the collapse of communism, it's mass immigration and the return to squa... more

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    4
    APODiatrist
    a year ago

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The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Q: What makes the difference between automation that shares benefits with workers and automation that leaves them in poor conditions?
Diane Coyle says the institutional environment matters, including unions and workers' collective bargaining power; she is not especially worried about mass unemployment from AI.
The Growth Conundrum: 3. Growing Up
Q: Would they accept some short-term economic pain for long-term gain of higher growth?
Graham doubts that promised sacrifices will produce benefits, while Amira says people may accept them if they see real outcomes.
The Growth Conundrum: 1. Growing Pains
Q: What has been holding back the UK's productivity growth over these past pretty dismal two decades?
Guests point to low public and private investment, economic shocks, uncertainty, high energy and business costs, planning constraints, trade barriers and inconsistent policy as factors limiting UK productivity and growth.
The Growth Conundrum: 1. Growing Pains
Q: Are people therefore making a mistake when they just look at growth as GDP? They should think about it in that broader sense, which you've just described.
Diane Coyle says growth should be considered broadly, including wellbeing and factors that are difficult to measure. She argues that political attention focuses too heavily on GDP because it is an accessible measure.
Seven Ages of Man, with Michael Rosen: 5. Lias Saoudi's in his 40s
Q: What happens when the man who built a life out of chaos does have to grow up?
Lias describes how fatherhood and turning 40 forced him to confront responsibility, fears, and the need for change, leading to a more grounded sense of self beyond past self-destructive patterns.

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This show centers on manhood across the decades, with intimate conversations from notable figures about aging, identity, fatherhood, vulnerability, and how society shapes expectations of men. Episodes bring personal anecdotes, creative and intellectual perspectives, and a willingness to challenge traditional norms, often weaving in humor, memory, and cultural critique. A recurring strength is the thoughtful, multi-generational approach to masculinity, pairing veteran public figures with younger voices to explore what it means to be a man at different life stages. Listeners can expect candid storytelling, references to health, relationships, and resilience, plus a gentle but probing willingness to question cultural scripts around strength an... more

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2. Rain Newton-Smith
3. Luke Trill
4. Norman Lamont
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6. Jeremy Hunt
7. Bob Kleber
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