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Why does the housing market seem so broken? And what can we do about it? UCLA Housing Voice tackles these questions in conversation with leading housing researchers, with each episode centered on a study and its implications for creating more affordable and accessible communities.

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Joined by a 20-year veteran of Fannie Mae, Shane shares findings from his work on a proposed new model for building renter wealth: shared prosperity rental housing.

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• Phillips, S. (2025). Building Renter Wealth: An Evaluation of Shared ... more

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Fixed-rate mortgages are expensive, but adjustable-rate mortgages are volatile — but do they have to be? Kevin Erdmann pitches an alternative that captures the best qualities of both. This is part 9 of our series on misaligned incentives in housing p... more

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This is the shortened "highlights" version of episode 106. You can listen to the full interview here.

Was the housing market really oversupplied in the mid-2000s? Kevin Erdmann says no, and he explains how this misunderstanding is at the root of pre... more

Was the housing market really oversupplied in the mid-2000s? Kevin Erdmann says no, and he explains how this misunderstanding is at the root of present-day affordability problems. This is part 8 of our series on misaligned incentives in housing polic... more

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Recent Guests

Bob Simpson
Founder of Simpson Impact Strategies and president & CEO of The Multifamily Impact Council; former Fannie Mae executive
Simpson Impact Strategies; Multifamily Impact Council
Episode: Ep. 108: Building Wealth by Renting with Shane Phillips and Bob Simpson
Kevin Erdmann
Author, senior affiliated scholar at Mercatus Center
Mercatus Center at George Mason University
Episode: Ep. 106: Mortgage Lending Standards with Kevin Erdmann (Incentives Series pt. 8)
Muhammad Alameldin
Senior Policy Advisor at California Yimbi and former researcher at the Turner Center for Housing Innovation.
California Yimbi
Episode: Ep. 104: Why We Don't Build Condos with Muhammad Alameldin (Incentives Series pt. 7)
Minji Kim
Assistant professor in urban design and real estate development at UCLA.
UCLA
Episode: Ep. 104: Why We Don't Build Condos with Muhammad Alameldin (Incentives Series pt. 7)
Alex Horowitz
Project Director for the Housing Policy Initiative at Pew Charitable Trusts
Pew Charitable Trusts
Episode: Ep 103: Fire Safety in Multifamily Housing with Alex Horowitz (Incentives Series pt. 6)
Benjamin Schneider
Freelance journalist, Bloomberg City Lab contributor, and author of The Unfinished Metropolis.
Author
Episode: Ep 102: Minimum Standards vs. Affordability with Benjamin Schneider (Incentives Series pt. 5)
John Zeanah
Chief of Development and Infrastructure for the City of Memphis, Tennessee, and Principal and Owner of Interval LLC.
City of Memphis
Episode: Ep 101: Beyond Zoning with John Zeanah and Andre D. Jones (Incentives Series pt. 4)
Andre D. Jones
Small-scale developer, general contractor and urbanist, co-owner of Jones Urban Development, based in Memphis.
Jones Urban Development
Episode: Ep 101: Beyond Zoning with John Zeanah and Andre D. Jones (Incentives Series pt. 4)
Jesse Zwick
Santa Monica Councilmember and UCLA Urban Planning Master's student
City of Santa Monica
Episode: Ep 99: The ‘International’ Code Council with Jesse Zwick (Incentives Series pt. 3)

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Shane Phillips
Host of UCLA Housing Voice Podcast

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 234 ratings
  • Must listen

    This podcast is a must-listen for anyone concerned about why the U.S. doesn’t have enough housing, market or affordable, and how different housing policies make that worse or sometimes better. Exposes practitioners to research that they probably didn’t even know existed.

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    5
    Owner/developer
    United Statesa year ago
  • Accessible and accurate

    This is a fantastic podcast for understanding the state of the research on housing economics and affordability. I appreciate that they interview the authors of the papers in a way that makes the content accessible to non-economists while preserving accuracy and nuance.

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    5
    Edisonberger
    United States2 years ago
  • Too much policy, not enough economics

    Love the topic, but unfortunately these episodes too often devolve to wishcasting. In the current series on pathways to homelessness episode 1 clearly states that the base issue in areas of high homeless is a lack of available units in which to live and the costs that scarcity drives. So why no follow up episodes on high density building, alternatives to traditional housing (beyond apartments/condos/sfh), breaking down govt regulation and bureaucracy to speed development, post pandemic commerci... more

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    3
    russian interference
    United States2 years ago
  • Invaluable!

    Searching "why x policy..." often goes nowhere useful - particularly without institutional access to journals, or adequate knowledge of the legal terminology or variation in terminology in other areas. Any of these episodes is a wealth of terminology, names of researchers, studies, cultural and legislative context, discussion of how the studies were conducted, their limitations... with the recognition that listeners may be coming from a range of interests, backgrounds, and level of knowledge. S... more

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    5
    AvidaLynnMorgan
    Canada2 years ago
  • Great, informative podcast

    Really appreciate this as a way to get deeply informed on housing issues while on the go. The Pathways Home series is particularly great: very relevant, important and accessible. Will share with friends.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tobyhhgvgh
    United States2 years ago

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Ep. 108: Building Wealth by Renting with Shane Phillips and Bob Simpson
Q: How would SPR work in practice for a tenant and for a sponsor?
For a tenant, daily renting would be similar to a typical apartment, with the addition of annual rental rewards that accumulate over time and may be redeemable as wealth; for sponsors, higher leverage and government-backed financing could lower costs and unlock profit-sharing that still ensures returns for lenders and investors, with risk and reward shared according to a defined structure.
Ep. 108: Building Wealth by Renting with Shane Phillips and Bob Simpson
Q: What is Shared Prosperity Rental Housing and what problem is it trying to solve?
SPR is a housing model where developers borrow more and share profits with tenants via rental rewards, making renting more wealth-building and potentially inflation-protected, thereby addressing the wealth gap between renters and homeowners and providing a viable alternative where subsidies and policy biases favor ownership.
Ep. 107: A Better Mortgage with Kevin Erdmann (Incentives Series pt. 9)
Q: What would need to happen for this kind of mortgage to become a standard offering to US home buyers?
There would need to be set up some guardrails in terms of the repayment rate to ensure it's not treated as a predatory loan, likely requiring involvement from federal agencies.
Highlights: Ep. 106. Mortgage Lending Standards with Kevin Erdmann
Q: Is this as simple as going back to the way things were in the mid-2000s except without all the subprime lending?
Yes, the solution is to revert to functional lending practices without the risky subprime loans that caused prior issues.
Highlights: Ep. 106. Mortgage Lending Standards with Kevin Erdmann
Q: What caused this big rise in the average credit score of mortgage borrowers and the drop in the share of borrowers with scores under 760?
The rise in the average credit score and decrease in lower credit score borrowers stemmed from stricter lending standards imposed post-2008, not an actual increase in borrower risk.

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What is UCLA Housing Voice about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show presents in-depth conversations centered on housing economics, policy, and urban design, often anchored by recent research papers or policy reports. Episodes frequently explore affordability, housing supply, building codes, and innovative financing or policy experiments—ranging from renter wealth and new financing models to mortgage design, condo regulations, and safety standards. A recurring strength is translating technical research into practical implications for investors, developers, and public officials, with guests who regularly include researchers, city officials, and practitioners shaping housing outcomes.

Noteworthy is the pragmatic, evidence-driven approach that pairs rigorous analysis with real-world considerations, pl... more

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