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Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality

Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend
Sustainability
Carbon
Financial Services
Climate Change
Circular Economy
Artificial Intelligence
Neurodiversity
Greenwashing
Sustainable Consumption
Innovation
Corporate Sustainability
Creativity
Carbon Neutral
Cancer Alley
Green Hushing
Mastercard Carbon Calculator
Blenheim Palace
Colgate Palmolive
Plastic Waste Reduction
Recycling

Being a sustainable business professional is both exhilarating and terrifying. Lots of steps forward…and back. To succeed you need deep insights, real experience, lots of inspiration, maybe a few laughs. Each episode, sustainable business veterans Solitaire Townsend and Joel Makower delve into the complexities of the moment and introduce you to provocative and inspiring people you need to know.

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Recorded live at the GreenBiz 26 conference in February, this episode of Two Steps Forward features Dylan Siegler, head of sustainability at Universal Music Group. Siegler discusses how the music industry’s greatest sustainability impact may come not... more

For much of the past decade, corporate sustainability has been absorbed into the machinery of management — metrics, disclosures, target-setting and compliance. Necessary work, certainly. But something essential has been lost along the way: the idea t... more

For all the noise surrounding climate — the backlash, the culture wars, the political theatrics — here’s an uncomfortable truth: most Americans haven’t changed their minds at all.

That’s the quiet bombshell from our recent podcast conversation with ... more

In this episode, we talked about Solitaire's remarkable new novel — but the most useful part of the conversation wasn’t about the book’s alternative Roman Empire or its sword-wielding heroine. It was about what writing fiction taught her about what m... more

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Raz Godelnik
Associate Professor of Strategic Design and Management at the Parsons School of Design
Parsons School of Design
Episode: Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Ann Tracy
Chief Sustainability Officer at Colgate Palmolive
Colgate Palmolive
Episode: Inside Colgate’s quest for a circular supply chain
Ellen Jackowski
Chief Sustainability Officer at Mastercard
Mastercard
Episode: Mastercard CSO: ‘Making more sustainable choices is a megatrend’
Reverend Lennox Yearwood
CEO of the Hip Hop Caucus, advocate for social and environmental justice
Hip Hop Caucus
Episode: Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr.: Let's Turn Cancer Alley into Opportunity Alley
Kate Brandt
Chief Sustainability Officer at Google
Google
Episode: Google CSO Kate Brandt: This is a ‘once-in-a-career’ moment

Hosts

Joel Makower
Co-host with extensive experience in sustainability and business, bringing a wealth of knowledge and engaging storytelling to the discussions.
Solitaire Townsend
Co-host and advocate for sustainable business practices, known for her insightful observations and practical advice in the realm of sustainability.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 8 ratings
  • Great podcast!

    Joel and Solitaire provide deep insight into the challenges and opportunities of being a sustainability-focused business leader in this engaging podcast. Their top-tier guests are full of useful nuggets of wisdom for those both inside and outside the business world. Highly recommended!

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    Michael Ethan Gold
    United States9 months ago

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Guests are recognized for providing invaluable wisdom and practical suggestions for sustainable practices.
The hosts are praised for their engaging style and ability to connect with both industry veterans and newcomers.
Listeners appreciate the deep insights into the complexities of sustainability and business leadership.

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Mastercard CSO: ‘Making more sustainable choices is a megatrend’
Q: What would it take for you, Mastercard and your competitors to go further faster?
Ellen illustrates the need for innovation and collaboration in the financial services sector to enable a circular economy.
Mastercard CSO: ‘Making more sustainable choices is a megatrend’
Q: How do we best meet this moment? How are you meeting this very, very influx moment at Mastercard?
Ellen explains that she maintains a clear focus on the impact they aim to drive while adapting to evolving information in the sustainability landscape.
Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Q: What would you be looking forward to know that you got through to these students?
To see them experimenting with change and having a good idea of what change should look like, differentiating between radical and incremental changes.
Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Q: How do you prepare students for this world?
I try to install in them how to ask better questions and understand that there are different spheres of action and influence.
Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Q: What do you think of this moment?
I think it's definitely a difficult moment on some level, but I think that there's something to be learned from every moment, including this moment.

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Exploring the intricate balance between sustainability and business, a unique discussion unfolds focusing on the challenges and opportunities faced by professionals in the sustainability sector. Episodes frequently cover pressing topics such as carbon neutrality, corporate sustainability, and the role of creativity in fostering innovative solutions. Through engaging conversations with leading experts from various industries, the content emphasizes practical approaches to integrating sustainable practices within corporate frameworks. Notably, the hosts combine their vast expertise with an approachable style, often sharing personal anecdotes that bring a relatable perspective to complex sustainability issues, making it accessible for both ind... more

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