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Two Steps Forward — Sustainability Meets Business Reality

Joel Makower and Solitaire Townsend
Sustainability
Carbon
Financial Services
Climate Change
Circular Economy
Artificial Intelligence
Neurodiversity
Greenwashing
Sustainable Consumption
Innovation
Corporate Sustainability
Creativity
Carbon Neutral
Cancer Alley
Green Hushing
Mastercard Carbon Calculator
Blenheim Palace
Colgate Palmolive
Plastic Waste Reduction
Recycling

Being a sustainable business professional is both exhilarating and terrifying. Lots of steps forward…and back. To succeed you need deep insights, real experience, lots of inspiration, maybe a few laughs. Each episode, sustainable business veterans Solitaire Townsend and Joel Makower delve into the complexities of the moment and introduce you to provocative and inspiring people you need to know.

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What's going on at COP30? You wouldn't know much by reading the mainstream media, other than the relatively mild protests and the usual infrastructure problems nearly all COPs face. But what should companies know about the substance of the event?

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What happens when the world’s dominant measurement system for corporate climate impact no longer reflects the world we’re operating in? And what should replace or supplement it?

At this year’s Climate Week in New York City, amid the 1,000-plus events and 100,000 attendees crowding the streets and stages, one theme stood out: leadership. Not just any leadership, but the kind that comes from the very top.

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Solitaire Townsend and Joel Makower dive deep into the messy, confusing and often misleading world of corporate carbon claims. “Carbon neutral” once carried a certain promise. When Interface, the carpet company, popularized the phrase two decades ago... more

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Recent Guests

Raz Godelnik
Associate Professor of Strategic Design and Management at the Parsons School of Design
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Episode: Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Ann Tracy
Chief Sustainability Officer at Colgate Palmolive
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Episode: Inside Colgate’s quest for a circular supply chain
Ellen Jackowski
Chief Sustainability Officer at Mastercard
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Episode: Mastercard CSO: ‘Making more sustainable choices is a megatrend’
Reverend Lennox Yearwood
CEO of the Hip Hop Caucus, advocate for social and environmental justice
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Episode: Rev. Lennox Yearwood Jr.: Let's Turn Cancer Alley into Opportunity Alley
Kate Brandt
Chief Sustainability Officer at Google
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Episode: Google CSO Kate Brandt: This is a ‘once-in-a-career’ moment

Hosts

Joel Makower
Co-host of Two Steps Forward, experienced in discussing sustainable business practices and the complexities involved in corporate responsibility.
Solitaire Townsend
Co-host of Two Steps Forward, influential in conversations around sustainable business strategies and practices.

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 8 ratings
  • Great podcast!

    Joel and Solitaire provide deep insight into the challenges and opportunities of being a sustainability-focused business leader in this engaging podcast. Their top-tier guests are full of useful nuggets of wisdom for those both inside and outside the business world. Highly recommended!

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    Michael Ethan Gold
    United States5 months ago

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The content is praised for addressing both the challenges and opportunities in sustainability, resonating well with professionals in the field.
The synergy between hosts is highlighted as engaging and informative, making complex topics accessible to all.
Listeners appreciate the insightful dialogue and expert guests, noting that it offers practical wisdom for sustainability leaders.

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Mastercard CSO: ‘Making more sustainable choices is a megatrend’
Q: What would it take for you, Mastercard and your competitors to go further faster?
Ellen illustrates the need for innovation and collaboration in the financial services sector to enable a circular economy.
Mastercard CSO: ‘Making more sustainable choices is a megatrend’
Q: How do we best meet this moment? How are you meeting this very, very influx moment at Mastercard?
Ellen explains that she maintains a clear focus on the impact they aim to drive while adapting to evolving information in the sustainability landscape.
Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Q: What would you be looking forward to know that you got through to these students?
To see them experimenting with change and having a good idea of what change should look like, differentiating between radical and incremental changes.
Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Q: How do you prepare students for this world?
I try to install in them how to ask better questions and understand that there are different spheres of action and influence.
Raz Godelnik – What future CSOs need to understand
Q: What do you think of this moment?
I think it's definitely a difficult moment on some level, but I think that there's something to be learned from every moment, including this moment.

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