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Two by Two

The Ken
India
Artificial Intelligence
Quick Commerce
Venture Capital
Netflix
Swiggy
E-Commerce
Electric Vehicles
Phonepe
Zepto
Ola Electric
Consumer Behavior
UPI
Fintech
Zomato
Air Pollution
Content Strategy
Generative AI
Paytm
Amazon

The Two by Two podcast is a premium business podcast from The Ken that investigates, discusses and breaks down the most important business stories around you. Hosted from The Ken's newsroom by business journalists Rohin Dharmakumar and Praveen Gopal Krishnan, Two by Two will feature guests and experts from across the industry and academia to talk about issues no one else is talking about.

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Everything around the Indian economy looks shaky, i.e., a months-long conflict, a sliding rupee, and a government telling people to stop buying gold. Except for one important caveat: India’s market continues to hold on. The Sensex and Nifty have bare... more

Emergent, the vibe-coding startup, has a $100 million annual run rate and 6 million users across 190 countries. Plus, it’s backed by the biggest names in the industry—Khosla Ventures, SoftBank, Google, Lightspeed, and Y Combinator. By most convention... more

There are two ways to tell the quick commerce story in India.

The first, and the more conventional way this narrative exists is that quick-commerce is a three-way race between Blinkit, which has pulled ahead with 2,200 dark stores and a roughly half... more

These days it’s fashionable to have an AI story, no matter what you do. 

But in December 2024, Bajaj Finance took it a few steps further. Instead of calling itself "a lender investing in AI," it started to describe itself as a "FinAI company" - a ca... more

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Recent Guests

Vishal Gahlaut
Chief Business Officer, Hopscotch
Hopscotch
Episode: Amazon’s quick commerce wildcard is Prime
Aditya Suresh
Head of Research
Macquarie
Episode: Amazon’s quick commerce wildcard is Prime
Vasuta Agarwal
Chief Revenue Officer
Gnani AI
Episode: Everyone bet on PhonePe and CRED. Bajaj Finance got there first.
Anand Kalyanaraman
Finance Editor of The Ken, frequent Groww author
The Ken
Episode: Groww beat every odd to get here. What beats it next?
Avinash Luthria
Founder of Fiduciaries, SEBI-registered investment advisor
Fiduciaries
Episode: Groww beat every odd to get here. What beats it next?
Jay Datta
Senior design leader who has built design teams at Deutsche Bank, Adobe, Flipkart, Makemytrip; runs Designup Conference
Designup (conference organizer); former roles at Deutsche Bank, Adobe, Flipkart, Makemytrip
Episode: Should young designers pay senior designers to teach them?
Shreyas Satish
Founder of Ownpath, design and development studio
Ownpath
Episode: Should young designers pay senior designers to teach them?
Prasanna Akela
Co-founder of Belong, Hyrox Bengaluru finisher, former Uber/Apple/CRED executive
Belong; Hyrox Bengaluru
Episode: Hyrox gave India a finish line. What happens after you cross it?
Dilip Kumar
Investment lead at Rainmatter; endurance athlete
Rainmatter (Zerodha health fund); investor in Hyrox India
Episode: Hyrox gave India a finish line. What happens after you cross it?

Hosts

Rohin Dharmakumar
Host of Two by Two, business journalist; with The Ken affiliations and deep experience covering business and markets
Praveen Gopal Krishnan
Co-host of Two by Two; long-form business journalist with The Ken background; leads discussions and guides guests

Reviews

4.5 out of 5 stars from 261 ratings
  • Sharda constantly interrupting Praveen was so irritating in IPL episode

    Sharda needs podcast training. Usually the episodes are professional and high in audio quality. But this speaker was constantly interrupting others, makes serious interesting conversation threads sidetracked. And switching to Hindi casually.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Yogesh Singla YS
    India3 months ago
  • Let guests speak!

    One of the host keeps interrupting the guest and launching into his own insights or counterpoints. Podcasts are not debates.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    RanchoSingh
    Indiaa year ago
  • A great app for Budding entrepreneurs

    This podcast is a must for management students who, in the future will have to think objectively before making decisions

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Kungpao panda
    Indiaa year ago
  • Old Ken was better

    The original Ken was definitely better. One story with depth. Now it is like any other publication where most stories are very superficial reporting. May be it’s a way to increase readership.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Its_mnm
    Indiaa year ago
  • Great insights

    Best business podcast for people who want to understand the startup deeply

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Bharani C
    India2 years ago

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Some episodes suffer from interruptions impacting the flow, which is noted by listeners.
Listeners appreciate deep, data-driven analysis and practical takeaways for business strategy.
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Positive feedback often highlights high production quality and strong guest insights.

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#88
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Apple Podcasts
#13
India/Business

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Everyone bet on PhonePe and CRED. Bajaj Finance got there first.
Q: How do data, incentives, and company DNA combine to create a durable moat for Bajaj Finance?
They argue that Bajaj leverages a combination of rich voice data, proactive cross-selling across product lines, a relentless sales culture, and a willingness to experiment with multiple AI partners and pilots, which together create a durable, hard-to-copy advantage that goes beyond raw data alone.
Everyone bet on PhonePe and CRED. Bajaj Finance got there first.
Q: What makes Bajaj Finance credible as a FinAI company, given its history of aggressive disclosures?
The panelists note that credibility hinges on tangible improvements in cost and revenue over time, the scale and uniqueness of Bajaj's data assets, and whether the company can translate its AI ambitions into measurable bottom-line impact rather than just ambitious slides.
19 years on, is IPL still too big to fail? Sharda Ugra answers
Q: But, PGK, tell us why we're talking about IPL today.
Sharda explains that IPL's evolution touches the core of cricket administration, broadcast economics, and global sport monetization, making it a critical case study for understanding sports business strategies and the future trajectory of franchise leagues.
Healthify swallowed its disruptors. But can it digest them?
Q: What is Healthify's response to AI disruption and GLP-1 therapy?
Healthify has integrated AI-powered coaching (Rhea) and partnered with GLP-1 therapies to provide a comprehensive, personalized program, while emphasizing co-intelligence (human plus AI) and habit formation to sustain outcomes.
What a global investor really thinks about India's next decade
Q: What narratives do you see as the top drivers for India over the next decade?
Key narratives include the shift from traditional FMCG and B2C competition to brands and export-oriented growth, accelerating manufacturing, expansion of Bharat (tier 2/3 markets), and the evolution of supply chains through domestic CAPEX and labor arbitrage. AI and tech-enabled productivity, along with improved governance and private sector risk-taking, are expected to unlock substantial mid-cap opportunities.

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Two by Two delivers nuanced, data-driven discussions on major business stories with industry insiders and academic voices. Episodes frequently critique branding, market structure, and technology-enabled disruption, featuring guests from finance, branding consultancies, investment firms, and top tech companies. Notably, the show blends rigorous analysis with practical implications for founders, investors, and executives, often unpacking how macro trends translate into real-world strategy. Listeners are likely drawn to thoughtful, evidence-based conversations about growth, competition, and the evolving landscape of Indian and global business. Potential guests and sponsors may find value in the show's capability to translate complex topics int... more

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2. Aditya Suresh
3. Vasuta Agarwal
4. Anand Kalyanaraman
5. Avinash Luthria
6. Jay Datta
7. Shreyas Satish
8. Prasanna Akela

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