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Cyber-safety is patient-safety. On “UnHack,” Drex DeFord, veteran healthcare CIO and infused strategist, breaks down the biggest cybersecurity and risk challenges facing healthcare today. Drex and expert guests explore what happened, why it matters, and how to build real-world resilience. The show's a mostly plain-English, mostly non-technical discussion that dives into the people, process, and te... more

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Preston Duren
Threat Services at Fortified Health Security
Fortified Health Security
Episode: Newsday: MFA Isn't Enough and Why Healthcare Can’t Just Hack Back with Preston Duren
Bill Willis
An expert in identity and access management with extensive experience in the field.
Idmworks
Episode: Executive Interview: Solving Healthcare's Identity Access Management Complexity with Bill Willis
Russell Teague
Cybersecurity expert and principal at Fortified Health Security
Fortified Health Security
Episode: Newsday: The Perfect Storm in Healthcare Cybersecurity: AI, Costs, and Risk with Russell Teague
Sahan Fernando
Chief Information Security Officer for Rady Children's Health
Rady Children's Health
Episode: UnHack (the Podcast): A Peek Behind the Health ISAC Curtain with Sahan Fernando
Ryan Bengtson
CEO and board member at Panda Health
Panda Health
Episode: Newsday: Possible Government Shutdown and Epic's Big Ambient Push with Ryan Bengtson
Terri Couts
Chief Digital Officer at the Guthrie Clinic
Guthrie Clinic
Episode: Solution Showcase: The Future of Patient Monitoring with Terri Couts and Rachel Weissberg
Rachel Weissberg
Head of Neteera's provider strategy in the US
Neteera
Episode: Solution Showcase: The Future of Patient Monitoring with Terri Couts and Rachel Weissberg
Cristian Rodriguez
Works at CrowdStrike, focusing on cybersecurity threats
CrowdStrike
Episode: UnHack (the News): Help Desk Hacks, Fake IT Workers & AI Ransomware - The New Cyber Threat Playbook
Margaret Ptacek
Senior Vice President at Experis, a leader in healthcare workforce solutions, clinical operations support, and technology-enabled care models.
Experis
Episode: Newsday: Remote Patient Monitoring and Staffing Solutions with Margaret Ptacek

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Drex DeFord
Drex DeFord is a healthcare CIO and infused strategist, recognized for his insights into cybersecurity challenges facing the healthcare sector.

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Newsday: MFA Isn't Enough and Why Healthcare Can’t Just Hack Back with Preston Duren
Q: What are you worried about with AI from a security perspective?
AI must be managed with human oversight to mitigate risks from false positives and ensure safe operation.
Newsday: MFA Isn't Enough and Why Healthcare Can’t Just Hack Back with Preston Duren
Q: What do you think about the challenges providers face with MFA today?
MFA has become outdated as attackers are now exploiting its vulnerabilities, especially in phishing attacks.
Newsday: Healthcare Under Siege - Cybersecurity Expert Ed Gaudet on AI Threats & Third-Party Risks
Q: Ed, if you're the CEO of a hospital, where do you want that function to reside?
It needs to be elevated at a level that is on par with the finance committee and audit committee at the board.
2 Minute Drill: Qantas' Bold Move to Cut Senior Leadership Bonuses with Drex DeFordAfter Data Breach
Q: Is there a CEO out there who would like to sit down and have a conversation with me about how they are building a program that would put every exec's wallet on the table when there's a cyber incident?
Drex invites CEOs to discuss how to hold all executives accountable for cybersecurity performance.
2 Minute Drill: Qantas' Bold Move to Cut Senior Leadership Bonuses with Drex DeFordAfter Data Breach
Q: Would budgets for cybersecurity programs suddenly look different?
Yes, if executives had direct financial implications tied to cybersecurity, it might lead to quicker approvals for necessary cybersecurity investments.

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