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Cyber-safety is patient-safety. On “UnHack,” Drex DeFord, veteran healthcare CIO and infused strategist, breaks down the biggest cybersecurity and risk challenges facing healthcare today. Drex and expert guests explore what happened, why it matters, and how to build real-world resilience. The show's a mostly plain-English, mostly non-technical discussion that dives into the people, process, and te... more

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May 15, 2026: Big news from Drex DeFord, starting May 15th, UnHack the Podcast and the Two-Minute Drill are moving to the 229 Project Podcast Channel. Same show, same mission, same Drex — just one unified home alongside Bill Russell and Sarah Richard... more

North Korean threat actors didn't breach a firewall. They built a fake company. UNC1069 spent two weeks constructing a convincing Slack workspace, fake team members, and LinkedIn profiles to earn the trust of Jason Seaman -- lead maintainer of Axios,... more

May 5, 2026: What happens when attackers don't just break into your systems, they become you? Josh Howell, Healthcare CTO at Rubrik, joins Drex DeFord to unpack Rubrik's newly announced partnership with the American Hospital Association, a rigorous v... more

May 4, 2026: Lisbeth Votruba, Chief Clinical Officer at AvaSure, joins Bill Russell and Drex DeFord on Newsday to celebrate Nurses Week with a fascinating look at where nursing has been, and where it's going. From Florence's data-driven legacy to tod... more

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Recent Guests

Josh Howell
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Lisbeth Votruba
Chief Clinical Officer, AvaSure
AvaSure
Episode: Nurses Week Special on Florence Nightingale and the Future of Nursing | Newsday with Lisbeth Votruba
Rick McIntosh
CTO at Children's Hospital Colorado
Children's Hospital Colorado
Episode: UnHack the Podcast: Children's Hospital Code Dark Plan with Laurie Campbell and Rick McIntosh
Laurie Campbell
Senior Manager over clinical ancillary applications; lead of Code Dark initiative
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Episode: UnHack the Podcast: Children's Hospital Code Dark Plan with Laurie Campbell and Rick McIntosh
Angel Mena
CMO for Symplr
Symplr
Episode: Newsday: What Healthcare Gets Backwards - Building Better Care with Angel Mena
Frank Duff
Chief Innovation Officer at Tidal Cyber
Tidal Cyber
Episode: Executive Interview: Maximizing Security with the Tools You Already Have with Frank Duff
James Winebrenner
Executive at Elisity
Elisity
Episode: Executive Interview: Securing Healthcare's Hidden Attack Surface with James Winebrenner
Eli Tarlow
CDW executive mentioned on-air, partner in discussion
CDW
Episode: Executive Interview: ROI or Bust - Why Emotions No Longer Cut It in Healthcare
Gerry Miller
Founder and CEO of Cloudticity
Cloudticity
Episode: Executive Interview Live at HIMSS 26’: Zero Breach Cloud Security with Gerry Miller

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Drex DeFord
Host of UnHack, healthcare IT veteran and storyteller focused on cyber risk and resilience in healthcare.

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4.6 out of 5 stars from 39 ratings
  • Interesting Health IT news

    Drex, Bill, and Sarah do an excellent job of explaining complex topics in health IT. They provide actionable advice and clear explanations. They dig in and provide cogent analysis and insightful implications.

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Executive Interview: Securing Healthcare's Hidden Attack Surface with James Winebrenner
Q: RSA is coming up. What are your goals for the conference and what should attendees expect from Elisity there?
We'll be showcasing how our identity-based approach helps customers quickly move from visibility to control, with live demonstrations of mapping assets to mitigating policies and opportunities to connect with customers and product leadership to discuss roadmaps and real-world outcomes.
Executive Interview: Securing Healthcare's Hidden Attack Surface with James Winebrenner
Q: So start by telling me a little bit about yourself and your background and how you wound up at Elisity.
I've spent roughly 25 years in cybersecurity and infrastructure, with early work at Check Point during the .com era, followed by stints at Cisco, leading me to focus on securing assets across IT and OT without heavy network changes.
Executive Interview Live at HIMSS 26’: Zero Breach Cloud Security with Gerry Miller
Q: Is that something you help them with, figure out where's the right place to maybe start this workload in the cloud?
Yes, Cloudticity helps clients assess where to place workloads by focusing on ROI-driven decisions, starting from financial ROI and then expanding to operational outcomes like faster product releases and improved patient care.
UnHack the Podcast: Building a Security-First Culture in Healthcare IT with Steven Ramirez
Q: How do you handle the tension between speed/innovation and security?
We push for security to win in governance and architecture decisions, favoring collaboration with other leaders across the organization, and applying a structured intake process to evaluate new technologies and projects before deployment.
UnHack the Podcast: Building a Security-First Culture in Healthcare IT with Steven Ramirez
Q: Tell us a little bit about your job and where you work.
I'm the Chief Information Security and Technology Officer at Renown Health, leading security, IT governance, and risk initiatives across our four-hospital system and affiliated services, with a focus on security by design and enterprise risk management.

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Frequently Asked Questions About UnHack

What is UnHack about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Cyber-safety and patient safety intertwine as healthcare organizations confront ransomware, data governance, and AI-enabled workflows. Episodes frequently explore practical resilience strategies—ransomware recovery, zero-trust architectures, incident response, and the role of people and processes alongside technology—through real-world hospital and vendor perspectives. Noteworthy angles include Code Dark resilience programs at pediatric systems, AI's impact on clinician workflows, and the evolving dynamics between providers, vendors, and regulators. The show tends to spotlight actionable tactics over theory, making it helpful for decision-makers in IT, security, risk, and operations across health systems and healthtech companies.

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