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Cyber-safety is patient-safety. On “UnHack,” Drex DeFord, veteran healthcare CIO and infused strategist, breaks down the biggest cybersecurity and risk challenges facing healthcare today. Drex and expert guests explore what happened, why it matters, and how to build real-world resilience. The show's a mostly plain-English, mostly non-technical discussion that dives into the people, process, and te... more

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Drex examines the growing insider threat landscape in healthcare cybersecurity. The episode covers CrowdStrike's recent insider incident where screenshots were leaked to cybercriminals, new research showing 93% of organizations struggle to detect ins... more

November 25, 2025: What if cybersecurity awareness training could be fun, like mixing bratwurst and flu shots? Shawna Hofer, CISO at St. Luke's Health System, shares how her team transformed security culture by meeting staff where they are—literally.... more

November 24, 2025: Healthcare organizations are drowning in applications they can't even inventory, especially after mergers and acquisitions. But the real shock comes when they try to access archived data years later. Dave Dyell, Managing Partner at... more

November 21, 2025: What if your organization could reclaim millions of dollars just by rethinking processes you already have in place? Bill Willis, CTO of IDMWORKS, discusses the hidden costs plaguing healthcare IT, from runaway cloud storage bills t... more

Cybercriminals are escalating their tactics by deploying AI-enabled malware that adapts in real-time. Google Cloud and Anthropic threat intelligence reports reveal attackers using tools like Prompt Flux malware to contact AI APIs mid-attack, rewritin... more

November 19, 2025: Healthcare IT infrastructure has become so complex that teams have lost sight of the actual patient impact. Kurt Telep, Healthcare Field CTO at Nutanix, pulls no punches in this conversation about what's broken and how to fix it. F... more

November 17, 2025: How does a 25-bed critical access hospital successfully stop a cyberattack when larger health systems fall victim? George Pappas, CEO of Intraprise Health, unpacks the Colorado hospital that shows how security culture beats expensi... more

CISA 2015's temporary extension buys time until January, but what happens next? Drex breaks down the Oracle E-Business Suite ransomware attack affecting 29 victims—including potential third and fourth-party partners in your supply chain. Plus, Google... more

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Recent Guests

Kurt Telep
Healthcare Field CTO at Nutanix
Nutanix
Episode: Executive Interview: How Complexity Kills Innovation and Lasting IT Leadership with Kurt Telep
Preston Duren
Threat Services at Fortified Health Security
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Episode: Newsday: MFA Isn't Enough and Why Healthcare Can’t Just Hack Back with Preston Duren
Bill Willis
An expert in identity and access management with extensive experience in the field.
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Episode: Executive Interview: Solving Healthcare's Identity Access Management Complexity with Bill Willis
Russell Teague
Cybersecurity expert and principal at Fortified Health Security
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Episode: Newsday: The Perfect Storm in Healthcare Cybersecurity: AI, Costs, and Risk with Russell Teague
Sahan Fernando
Chief Information Security Officer for Rady Children's Health
Rady Children's Health
Episode: UnHack (the Podcast): A Peek Behind the Health ISAC Curtain with Sahan Fernando
Ryan Bengtson
CEO and board member at Panda Health
Panda Health
Episode: Newsday: Possible Government Shutdown and Epic's Big Ambient Push with Ryan Bengtson
Rachel Weissberg
Head of Neteera's provider strategy in the US
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Episode: Solution Showcase: The Future of Patient Monitoring with Terri Couts and Rachel Weissberg
Terri Couts
Chief Digital Officer at the Guthrie Clinic
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Cristian Rodriguez
Works at CrowdStrike, focusing on cybersecurity threats
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Episode: UnHack (the News): Help Desk Hacks, Fake IT Workers & AI Ransomware - The New Cyber Threat Playbook

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Drex DeFord
Drex DeFord is a healthcare CIO and infused strategist, recognized for his insights into cybersecurity challenges facing the healthcare sector.

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Executive Interview: How Complexity Kills Innovation and Lasting IT Leadership with Kurt Telep
Q: If you could whisper one piece of advice in a CIO's ear about the future and how they can better engage with it, what would it be?
Focus on simplicity and choose platforms and tools that integrate well, leveraging the resources you already have.
Executive Interview: How Complexity Kills Innovation and Lasting IT Leadership with Kurt Telep
Q: For Healthcare IT teams, what's real right now and what's hype?
Healthcare organizations are likely to consume AI as a workload, using out-of-the-box solutions from existing vendors rather than developing their own AI models.
Newsday: The CxO Pulse - Insights and Lessons from 229 Summits with This Week Health
Q: How are you determining the right work to be sourced accordingly without either disengaging your team or compromising value in your organization?
Understanding the personnel and skill problems within the organization is key to determining which tasks can be outsourced effectively.
Newsday: The CxO Pulse - Insights and Lessons from 229 Summits with This Week Health
Q: What do you think is going to be the foundation for AI success?
The organizations focused on solving real problems and implementing technologies that address these problems are likely to succeed.
UnHack (the Podcast): Zero Trust and the Identity Perimeter with Mary Dickerson and Gordon Groschl
Q: What's one of the coolest things you've worked on lately?
Mary talked about merging security operations with identity management to improve their approach to security threats.

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Focused on the intersection of healthcare and cybersecurity, this podcast brings together industry experts to discuss the pressing challenges and threats that organizations face today. Through accessible conversations, the host and guests tackle key topics ranging from remote patient monitoring to the importance of cybersecurity training, ensuring that the information is digestible even for non-technical listeners. Notably, the podcast emphasizes the collective responsibility of healthcare stakeholders in safeguarding patient data and operational integrity, highlighting that building resilience in the face of cyber threats is a shared endeavor among all healthcare professionals.

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