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Healthcare
Artificial Intelligence
Healthcare Technology
Healthcare IT
Healthcare Cybersecurity
AI In Healthcare
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Health IT
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Patient Safety
Patient Care
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Google
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Data Breach
Vmware
Incident Response
Healthcare Transformation

Cyber-safety is patient-safety. On “UnHack,” Drex DeFord, veteran healthcare CIO and infused strategist, breaks down the biggest cybersecurity and risk challenges facing healthcare today. Drex and expert guests explore what happened, why it matters, and how to build real-world resilience. The show's a mostly plain-English, mostly non-technical discussion that dives into the people, process, and te... more

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September 28, 2026: Sarah Richardson with Elbridge Locklear, former CIO and now in the 229 Legacy Program. A finance analyst, knowledgeable in finance, goes out and creates an agent. Elbridge has no knowledge of it. The agent can call other skills, i... more

In May, a Tel Aviv company called Irregular was testing Google's Gemini inside a sandbox. A bug left a live internet connection open. The test target shared a name with a real company, and Gemini found it. It guessed passwords until one worked, then ... more

September 21, 2026: Bill Russell and Sarah Richardson. Dario Amodei wants labs to pace the frontier. The operator version: the more AI you put on an EHR you cannot see, the more it can feel like a denial of service. CIOs at the front of ambient are s... more

Army Major Kara Corcoran wears a Ranger tab and two Afghanistan tours. This summer she sat in a separation board five days short of 18 years. The board was not there to weigh her combat record. It was there for one line in her medical record. On July... more

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Angel Mena
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Frank Duff
Chief Innovation Officer at Tidal Cyber
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James Winebrenner
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Eli Tarlow
CDW executive mentioned on-air, partner in discussion
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Episode: Executive Interview: ROI or Bust - Why Emotions No Longer Cut It in Healthcare
Gerry Miller
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Drex DeFord
Host of UnHack with Drex DeFord, healthcare IT veteran and cybersecurity storyteller; frequently drives conversations on resilience and practical defenses.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 39 ratings
  • Interesting Health IT news

    Drex, Bill, and Sarah do an excellent job of explaining complex topics in health IT. They provide actionable advice and clear explanations. They dig in and provide cogent analysis and insightful implications.

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Covers health IT and cyber topics in plain language with clear takeaways.
Valuable for sponsors wanting healthcare IT decision-makers as targets.
High-quality guests with practical, real-world experiences.
Shows how to operationalize security in clinical settings.

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Executive Interview: Securing Healthcare's Hidden Attack Surface with James Winebrenner
Q: RSA is coming up. What are your goals for the conference and what should attendees expect from Elisity there?
We'll be showcasing how our identity-based approach helps customers quickly move from visibility to control, with live demonstrations of mapping assets to mitigating policies and opportunities to connect with customers and product leadership to discuss roadmaps and real-world outcomes.
Executive Interview: Securing Healthcare's Hidden Attack Surface with James Winebrenner
Q: So start by telling me a little bit about yourself and your background and how you wound up at Elisity.
I've spent roughly 25 years in cybersecurity and infrastructure, with early work at Check Point during the .com era, followed by stints at Cisco, leading me to focus on securing assets across IT and OT without heavy network changes.
Executive Interview Live at HIMSS 26’: Zero Breach Cloud Security with Gerry Miller
Q: Is that something you help them with, figure out where's the right place to maybe start this workload in the cloud?
Yes, Cloudticity helps clients assess where to place workloads by focusing on ROI-driven decisions, starting from financial ROI and then expanding to operational outcomes like faster product releases and improved patient care.
UnHack the Podcast: Building a Security-First Culture in Healthcare IT with Steven Ramirez
Q: How do you handle the tension between speed/innovation and security?
We push for security to win in governance and architecture decisions, favoring collaboration with other leaders across the organization, and applying a structured intake process to evaluate new technologies and projects before deployment.
UnHack the Podcast: Building a Security-First Culture in Healthcare IT with Steven Ramirez
Q: Tell us a little bit about your job and where you work.
I'm the Chief Information Security and Technology Officer at Renown Health, leading security, IT governance, and risk initiatives across our four-hospital system and affiliated services, with a focus on security by design and enterprise risk management.

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A health-tech cybersecurity show that translates complex security topics into practical, real-world lessons for healthcare organizations. Frequent discussions include incident response, resilience planning, ransomware recovery, governance, and the evolving role of AI and ambient technologies in clinical workflows. Noteworthy elements include a strong emphasis on people and process alongside technology, host-led storytelling with practitioner guests, and a willingness to tackle both clinical and operational aspects of security with healthcare context. Potential listeners can expect accessible explanations, actionable takeaways, and insights from hospital IT leaders, clinicians, and vendors shaping the security landscape in healthcare.

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