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The State of It

The Times
Ukraine
Russia
Donald Trump
Keir Starmer
Israel
Labour Party
Iran
NATO
United States
China
Vladimir Putin
Gaza
Andy Burnham
Hamas
Middle East
The Times
Nigel Farage
Peter Mandelson
Reform UK
India

Real reporting from the coalface of British politics.

Join The Times and The Sunday Times’s political heavyweights Steven Swinford, Ben Riley-Smith, Patrick Maguire and Lara Spirit as they dig deep into the latest tea room tip offs, reveal insider conversations and bring analysis, authority and insight.

No party loyalty. No spin. Not hosted by some old politicians. Taking you into the real busines... more

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Recent Guests

Fraser Nelson
Columnist for The Times, co-host/guest on this episode
The Times
Episode: Burnham's three big tests - and trouble at Reform UK
Nigel Farage
Leader of Reform UK (XR)
Reform UK
Episode: Will a Reform-Restore alliance unite the right?
Rupert Lowe
Founder/leader of Restore
Restore
Episode: Will a Reform-Restore alliance unite the right?
Colin Sutton
Police and Crime Commissioner for Norfolk
Reform
Episode: Will a Reform-Restore alliance unite the right?
Zac Polanski
Leader of the Green Party
Green Party
Episode: Will a Reform-Restore alliance unite the right?
Georgina Maloney
European right-wing figure referenced in context
National Future (Italy)
Episode: Will a Reform-Restore alliance unite the right?
Gabriel Pogrund
Insight Editor of The Sunday Times
The Sunday Times
Episode: The Burnham Bounce: how long can it last?
Andy Burnham
Leader figure and guest on the episode
Mayor of Greater Manchester, Labour Party
Episode: No, you're a factionalist: Labour's new battle lines
Zack Polanski
Greens leader discussed in analysis
Green Party
Episode: "They're going to have to drag him out" - Starmer prepares for a leadership battle

Hosts

Steven Swinford
Host of The State of It; senior political journalist for The Times.
Lara Spirit
Co-host/commentator; Deputy Political Editor/Editor-level political journalist.
Patrick Maguire
Co-host/Chief Political Commentator; senior political journalist.

Reviews

4.2 out of 5 stars from 432 ratings
  • Biased

    Tried this, but their Conservative bias makes my teeth itch. I’d rather be nibbled to death by ducks 🦆

    Apple Podcasts
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    SocksyG
    United Kingdom23 days ago
  • Asking the tough questions

    Like how long is a piece of string? A: Twice the distance from the middle to the end. A concept too complex for the hosts to comprehend.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    ❤️Radio4Comedy
    Netherlandsa month ago
  • Lost all respect for this one

    Overstepped mark in comments regarding Al Carns in latest episode.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    nicboomaxt
    United Kingdom3 months ago
  • Fabulous

    The State of It is always worthwhile, always good. One tiny bit of feedback, the excellent Lara Spirit needs to slow down a little. Her thinking is too fast for listeners to digest. She needs to remember that her audience isn’t the chaps in the studio but us, the public, going about our lives at the same time as listening to the pod. But she’s clearly brilliant!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AlexMarcusAur
    United Kingdom4 months ago
  • Asking the tough questions

    Like how long is a piece of string? A: Twice the distance from the middle to the end. How do we find the money to arm the military? A: Same way as the last 1000 years. Those who can pay must pay to keep the country they own, their own. That’ll be the rich then. And the poor deploy in a war, sacrificing their lives. Any other questions you guys are struggling with?

    Apple Podcasts
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    ❤️Radio4Comedy
    Netherlands5 months ago

Listeners Say

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High-quality journalism with credible sourcing and timely, relevant topics.
Strong guest lineup and sharp policy analysis that helps understand UK politics beyond headlines.
Some listeners perceive bias or gossipy tone in certain episodes; others praise the candid, no-spin approach.
Insightful, authoritative discussions with strong reporting and context.
Can feel like a dinner-table briefing with top reporters and insiders.

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#69
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#179
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#18
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#49
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#84
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Will a Reform-Restore alliance unite the right?
Q: What is the likelihood of a formal right-wing realignment around Reform and Restore?
The hosts suggest it's possible but uncertain, given the deep distrust between Reform and Restore and the risk of internal resistance within Reform if a deal undermines their base.
Have a go if you think you're hard enough
Q: How do you get your stories?
The most important stories often come from non-public figures in Westminster who have vital insider knowledge.
Frontline special: Lord Ricketts, former diplomat
Q: Where at the moment do you think we are? Kyiv is, you know, how emboldened should they feel?
They feel supported by Europe and confident that Trump will disappoint Putin's expectations.
Frontline special: Lord Ricketts, former diplomat
Q: So do you think Putin is now emboldened by this and therefore it's going to push him further away from wanting to get some form of peace settlement?
Yes, Putin thinks Trump won't follow through on threats and feels confident he can string him along.
Journalist killings leave Israel under pressure
Q: Why isn't the increasing anti-war sentiment from within Israel impacting the prime minister?
Protesters believe Netanyahu has extended the war for political benefit, suggesting he should consider ceasefire agreements to release hostages.

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A hard-hitting politics podcast pairing sharp insider reporting with strategic analysis of UK power dynamics. Regular hosts—prominent Times and Sunday Times journalists—dig into recent by-elections, party leadership battles, reform movements, and Westminster maneuvering, often weaving in exclusive briefing-style details and guest perspectives to illuminate how decisions really get made. The show stands out for its straight-talking tone, timely scoops, and a willingness to challenge party lines, making it feel like a high-signal briefing from the heart of British politics for listeners who want sharp, actionable context for policy and elections.

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2. Nigel Farage
3. Rupert Lowe
4. Colin Sutton
5. Zac Polanski
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7. Gabriel Pogrund
8. Andy Burnham

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