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This is Fine! A podcast about resilience engineering and software

Colette Alexander and Clint Byrum
Resilience Engineering
Incident Management
Engineering Culture
Software Development
Communication In Engineering
Richard Cook
Artificial Intelligence
Incident Command
Software Safety
Incident Metrics
Failure Analysis
Post-Incident Reports
On Hold
Dashboards
Code Freezes
Michelle Casey
Resilience Software Foundation
David Woods
Root Cause Analysis
Severity

A podcast about resilience engineering and software.

Ever wondered why things on the internet break? Do you work in software and wish that you could have a Dear-Abby-Like call-in show that could answer your deepest questions about how to make your workplace suck less? We're here to help!

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The new website is live! thisisfinepod.comYou can find John Allspaw at Adaptive Capacity Labs: www.adaptivecapacitylabs.comMike McGill, the skateboarder: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_McGillAnnie Duke’s Thinking in Bets, referenced by ou... more

Mitchell Hashimoto’s post on leaving Github: mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-githubThe Reddit post on Github’s availability historically (that we find questionable): www.reddit.com/r/github/comments/1rnvhs9/githubs_historic_down... more

Colette’s talk at SRECon intro: www.usenix.org/conference/srecon26americas/presentation/alexanderClint’s talk at SRECon intro: www.usenix.org/conference/srecon26americas/presentation/byrumDan Slimmon is an excellent engineer (per Clin... more

You can find the 2025 DORA Report here: dora.dev/research/2025/dora-report/Read more of Fred’s work/opinions here: ferd.ca/If you want to know more about Lund’s Human Factors and Systems Safety program, you can read here: www.... more

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Recent Guests

Elizabeth Carris Allspaw
Website designer for this podcast
Episode: Interviewing for Incident Analysis w/special guest John Allspaw
Erik Dobbs
Principal Incident Analyst at Oracle
Oracle
Episode: Paper Club: Two Years Before the Mast w/special guest eric dobbs
Fred Hebert
Staff SRE at Honeycomb.io; resilience engineering and human factors expert; Lund student
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Episode: The 2025 DORA Report w/special guest Fred Hebert
Beth Adele Long
Principal at Adaptive Capacity Labs; co-author of the resilience engineering paper
Adaptive Capacity Labs
Episode: Building and Revising Adaptive Capacity Sharing for Technical Incident Response with Beth Adele Long
Martin Smith
Principal Architect at NVIDIA's DGX Cloud
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Episode: The Messy 9 and Coding with AI - A Panel Discussion
Sheeri Cabral
Director of Enterprise Architecture at MyKarma
MyKarma
Episode: The Messy 9 and Coding with AI - A Panel Discussion
Dr. David Woods
Professor Emeritus at Ohio State University; resilience engineering pioneer
Ohio State University
Episode: The Messy 9 and Coding with AI - A Panel Discussion
Clint Byron
Companion in exploring AI tooling and engineering topics
Episode: The Messy 9 and Coding with AI - A Panel Discussion
Will Gallego
A seasoned software engineer with extensive experience across multiple companies; staff engineer at Grafana Labs since July 2024
Grafana Labs
Episode: Incident Status: On Hold w/special guest Will Gallego

Hosts

Collette
Host of resilience engineering and software podcast; co-host; experienced in facilitating discussions on resilience, incident response, and governance.
Clint
Host exploring resilience, offering practical perspectives on AI tooling, incident response, and software reliability.

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How (Not) to Introduce Resilience Engineering at Work with special guest Michelle Casey
Q: How do you get folks on board when you're junior and new?
Start by building credibility through small, credible wins and by asking different questions that reveal systemic insights, then gradually introduce what resilience engineering brings, framing it as an additive lens rather than a replacement for existing practices.
First Stories/Second Stories
Q: What is first story and second story when it comes to writing post-incident reports?
The first story describes the immediate, surface-level sequence of events suitable for conventional post-incident reports, while the second story interrogates deeper systemic factors—technology, processes, coordination, and organizational context—that create vulnerabilities; both can be true, but the second story provides a richer, more durable understanding of safety.
Incident Status: On Hold w/special guest Will Gallego
Q: What does it mean to put an incident on hold, and when might that be appropriate?
Will explains that pausing can be a social tool to manage workload and signal status, but it must be used judiciously; pausing can give teams time to rest, assess, and plan, yet it risks misrepresenting ongoing issues or impacting customer perception if not communicated clearly.
Complex Systems and the Messy Nine w/special guests Dave Woods and John Allspaw
Q: What is systems thinking?
Systems thinking is not just looking at a single component but understanding how parts interact within a larger system, recognizing that there are multiple valid perspectives and that the system's behavior emerges from relationships as well as components.
Episode 2 - Does Software Need Safety?
Q: What is safety?
John discusses the challenges in defining safety as it encompasses the absence of negative events, intertwined with understanding complex systems.

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The show centers on resilience engineering in software, with frequent deep dives into incident response, safety learning from outages, and the socio-technical aspects of reliability. Episodes blend practical frameworks (naturalistic decision making, adaptive capacity, and RCA vs resilience analysis) with real-world experiences from outages, AI tooling in engineering, and organizational change. Guests range from renowned resilience thinkers to practitioners, offering both theory and hands-on guidance for building durable systems, improving incident workflows, and aligning leadership, culture, and engineering practice. Notable strengths include a clear emphasis on learning over blame, a willingness to challenge traditional incident management... more

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