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The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

Trial Lawyers College
Trial Lawyers College
Psychodrama
Legal Education
Storytelling
Criminal Defense
The Trial Lawyers College
Trial Skills Foundation
Cross-Examination
Criminal Law
Medical Malpractice
Colorado
In Defense Of the Damned
Trial Advocacy
Personal Injury Law
Jury Verdicts
California
Immigration Justice
Courage To Ask
Texas
Traumatic Brain Injury

The Trial Lawyers College Podcast talks to leading attorneys, TLC board members, and faculty about the ideas and the issues that are affecting trial lawyers today. The TLC podcast covers courtroom strategy, communicating with jurors, connecting with clients, methods that drive success, balancing healthy relationships with a busy practice and more.

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Latest Episodes

Monica Hartsock joins Andrew Delaney and Amanda Harbour for a candid conversation about consumer protection litigation, building a successful solo practice, and the unexpected value of finding a community of trial lawyers. From fighting financial ins... more

In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College Podcast, Brady Skinner III sits down with legendary trial lawyer and longtime TLC faculty member Eric Davis for an honest conversation about race, justice, and the realities of practicing law in America. T... more

In this episode of the Trial Lawyers College Podcast, Amanda Harber and Andy Delaney welcome Harris County Public Defender and 2025 TLC graduate Reshae Ridley to share her experience at the College's Three-Week program at Camp Dawson. Shay reflects o... more

In this deeply reflective episode of the Trial Lawyers College Podcast, Maren Chaloupka sits down with longtime TLC graduate, trial lawyer, author, and teacher Robin Zephier. Robin shares the family stories, Indigenous traditions, and spiritual teach... more

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Recent Guests

Shay Ridley
Harris County Public Defender and TLC 2025 Three Week alum
Trial Lawyers College, Harris County Public Defender's Office
Episode: Transformed with Reshae Ridley
Robin Zephier
Trial lawyer in Rapid City, South Dakota; author of Warrior Is
Independent practitioner; author
Episode: Riding the Silent Pony with Robin Zephier
Patrick McLain
Attorney, owner of a small law firm; military and federal criminal defense
Self-employed; TLC client
Episode: Fighting for Justice with Patrick McLain
Naomi Jones
Lawyer focusing on property and casualty litigation
New Orleans law firm
Episode: Restoring Dignity with Lauren Checki and Naomi Jones
Lauren Checki
Lawyer focusing on property and casualty litigation
New Orleans law firm
Episode: Restoring Dignity with Lauren Checki and Naomi Jones
David Zagoria
Alum, faculty member, and F Warrior Board representative in Georgia; dog injury specialist
Trial Lawyers College, Georgia
Episode: Behind the Bite with David Zagoria
Natanya Brooks
2025 graduate of the full-length Trial Lawyers College program
Trial Lawyers College
Episode: Authenticity with Natanya Brooks
Laura Schultes
2023 TLC graduate; employment-law specialist
Independent practitioner / employment law firm (as described in episode)
Episode: The Story Beneath with Laura Schultes
Jeff Chapdelaine
Psychodramatist at TLC
Trial Lawyers College
Episode: The Human Connection with Jody Anderson and Jeff Chapdelaine

Hosts

Lauren Chalukka
Host of The Trial Lawyers College Podcast
Ron Estefan
Host of The Trial Lawyers College Podcast
Rafe Foreman
Host of The Trial Lawyers College Podcast

Reviews

4.3 out of 5 stars from 97 ratings
  • Fantastic and Eye Opening!

    By far the best podcast for trial lawyers. Shows the ingenious TLC methods and how they are practically used by TLC trial lawyers. Listening to these keeps me connected to TLC methods and makes me so grateful that I joined this community and have been lucky enough to attend so many TLC programs!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Danger4402
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great podcast for Trial Lawyers

    I’ve done one weeklong TLC event. Changed my perspective and outlook on my practice. I wish I had discovered this 25 years ago.

    This podcast is always on my listening list before trials and whenever I need some inspiration about our profession. Great interviews with great lawyers.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BayouB
    United States2 years ago
  • I’m so happy to have this resource and community

    I was certainly overwhelmed by the man formally known as Gerry Spence and what he did with his skanky wife.But after year I have finally let it go. Meanwhile, Rafe has done such a good job in communicating the difficulties that trial lawyers have had during the pandemic. Indeed, I believe there was a Judge in Brooklyn who had a line into Mitch McConnell as Vicki said. Anyway, I’m not gonna be the guy who dresses up in a duck suit, but I have learned so much from youse guys, as they say in Da Bro... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Marcellito
    United States5 years ago
  • Informative and inspiring. If you are interested in learning more about the method listen to this.

    I listen because I have been to the seminar and want to keep that feeling and the teachings fresh.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SR florida
    United States6 years ago
  • Very Disappointing

    I really wanted to like this podcast however listening to it was painful due to such poor production and sound quality. Inexcusably amateur!!!

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    LixxieBag
    United States7 years ago

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Listeners praise the authentic storytelling and the emphasis on humane advocacy.
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The episodes are packed with practical trial techniques and real-world lessons from top lawyers.

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Transformed with Reshae Ridley
Q: What drew Shay Ridley to public defense work in Houston?
Ridley explains a twofold motivation: a long-standing commitment to public service from her military background and a mission to help the left-out and underserved, which aligned with her role in the Public Defender's Office.
Authenticity with Natanya Brooks
Q: Can you share a moment when TLC made a tangible difference in your work with a client or in court?
Natanya recounts driving to a client's house and prioritizing relationship-building over immediate legal theatrics, which led to quicker trust and a stronger, more effective attorney-client connection.
Authenticity with Natanya Brooks
Q: How has the TLC experience changed the way you practice law, beyond strategy?
She describes a shift toward listening, empathy, and presence, with deeper client understanding, more honest dialogue in court, and a sense that jurors respond to genuine care and personal storytelling rather than scripted performance.
Authenticity with Natanya Brooks
Q: What felt different about TLC compared with traditional legal education or trial training?
Natanya emphasizes vulnerability as the gateway to true connection, noting that TLC moves away from performative competence toward authentic, present engagement with clients and juries, which in turn enhances trial outcomes.
Restoring Dignity with Lauren Checki and Naomi Jones
Q: Can you give an example of a story-based detail that made a difference in a case?
One memorable case involved a client whose family life and financial strain highlighted non-economic damages, such as how a roof loss affected a mother's ability to commute and care for her children, influencing the jury's perception beyond roof costs.

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What is The Trial Lawyers College Podcast about and what kind of topics does it cover?

A rigorous series featuring seasoned trial lawyers, TLC faculty, and graduates who unpack courtroom strategy, juror storytelling, and client communication. Episodes span civil rights, immigration, medical malpractice, nursing home cases, and high-stakes trials, with a strong emphasis on authentic storytelling, human-centered advocacy, and applying Trial Lawyers College training to real-world litigation. A notable thread is the focus on how TLC methods shape mindset, cross-examination, sentencing advocacy, and handling difficult topics with empathy, often illustrated through high-profile cases and collaborative seminars. The show is likely especially valuable for practitioners seeking practical, narrative-driven tactics and professional grow... more

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2. Robin Zephier
3. Patrick McLain
4. Naomi Jones
5. Lauren Checki
6. David Zagoria
7. Natanya Brooks
8. Laura Schultes

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