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The Swiftie and The Scholar

Angela McDow | Dr. Jerry Coats
Taylor Swift
Ivy
Poetry
Faith Crisis
Ophelia
Black Dog Folklore
Folklore
Evermore
Memory
Christianity
Stained Glass
Death By a Thousand Cuts
Eras Tour
Champagne Problems
Reputation
Fearless
The Black Dog
Depression
New Year's Day
Methodism

A weekly podcast exploring the lyrics, lore, and literary legacy of Taylor Swift. Hosted by Angela McDow, the Swiftie, and Dr. Jerry Coats, the Scholar, we read between the lines AND the liner notes. Join us each week for lyrical deep dive through Taylor Swift's eras.

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We are tackling one of the most underrated tracks from Taylor Swift’s folklore album, epiphany. The poem compares past war tragedies to 2020’s pandemic, and Uncle Jerry uses the poem to teach us about Hemingway’s Iceberg Theory.

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We are back in our Tortured Poets Era with Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus. This song was much-requested and was voted on by our Patreon subscribers. Angela and Uncle Jerry talk through the poem and Uncle Jerry concedes that sometimes we try to find... more

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We’re back in our Speak Now era with Dear John. Angela explains the lore behind this quintessential track 5 from Taylor Swift, and Uncle Jerry talks himself into being a fan of this poem.

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This week is the one year podcast anniversary, and Angela saved this song especially for this episode. But before we tackle seven from folklore, Angela and Uncle Jerry reflect on the past year and Angela surprises him with a little quiz to see just h... more

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Angela McDow
Host of The Swiftie and The Scholar; Swiftie analyst with a scholarly lens
Dr. Jerry Coats
Co-host of The Swiftie and The Scholar; literature-trained scholar offering close readings and literary theory

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 1.6k ratings
  • Great but the giggling.

    I really enjoy this podcast. The insights into lyrics and literary references by the scholar are phenomenal. I think the swiftie is bubbly and uplifting. But the giggling is....a lot. No one has ever been that funny. Dial it back, please.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Pengy_0612
    United States15 days ago
  • My favorite music podcast!

    Thursday is my favorite day of the week thanks to this podcast! It teaches me something new every week, makes me laugh, and I feel connected to Angela and Uncle Jerry! I want to be their friend in real life!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jesse E.P.
    United States18 days ago
  • great listening!

    I love listening to the break down of all of Taylor’s songs. You both have brought new meaning to her lyrics and shed light on certain portions of songs that never made sense to me. Really fun to listen to!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    MVBAILEY
    United Statesa month ago
  • Love this

    I’m not even a Swiftie… but I love this podcast and learning more about poetry. It’s a great resource for anyone wanting to improve their songwriting!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ⭐️Juli97⭐️
    New Zealand2 months ago
  • My favorite podcast!

    I can’t rave enough about this podcast! Everything about it is so good! I love the energy between Angela and Uncle Jerry, Dr Uncle Jerry’s dissecting of the poems and all the meanings the words carry and followed by the fact that he knows next to nothing about the author makes this podcast compelling listening. I highly recommend it!!! Easily my favorite hour of the week.

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    5
    Gem RN
    United States2 months ago

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Loved the scholarly yet approachable breakdowns of Taylor Swift's lyrics.
A must-listen for Swifties who want richer contextual analysis of songs and poems.
The hosts' dynamic makes deep literary analysis feel like a conversation with friends.
High-quality analysis that bridges poetry, pop culture, and personal anecdotes.

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Answering Your Questions - Volume 1
Q: What literary devices do you enjoy in Taylor's work?
I appreciate her metaphors and how she links words together throughout her songs.
Answering Your Questions - Volume 1
Q: What advice would you give to young scholars?
Read anything and everything you can to develop your taste and understanding.

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A weekly deep-dive into Taylor Swift's lyrics, lore, and literary references led by two co-hosts: a Swiftie who brings fan context and a scholar who applies close-reading and literary theory. Episodes blend line-by-line lyric analysis with poetic and cultural allusions, often pairing classroom-style explanations with personal anecdotes. The show consistently examines themes like memory, fame, adolescence, and identity, using Swift's catalog as a launchpad for broader literary discussion. Noteworthy is the conversational dynamic that shifts between rigorous analysis and accessible storytelling, making complex poetry and pop-culture lore approachable for both superfans and curious newcomers.

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