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The Pastor Theologians Podcast

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A theology podcast for the church. The pastor theologians podcast consists of conversations and teaching resources at the intersection of theological scholarship and life and ministry in the local church. The vision for this show is to help equip pastors to be theologians for today’s complex world.

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In this short bonus episode, Joel Lawrence and Steve Williamson introduce the Center for Pastor Theologians' two new one-year cohorts, exploring how they equip pastors and ministry leaders through theological formation, rich discussion, and practical... more

In this Summer Replay episode of the Preaching and the Pastor Theologian series, Joel Lawrence and Matt Kim sit down with Jim Samra, senior pastor of Calvary Church in Grand Rapids, Michigan, to explore the vital connection between a pastor's inner l... more

In this short, bonus episode of the CPT Podcast, we talk with Matthew Kim about a preaching resource that has profoundly shaped his ministry—Preaching as Reminding: Stirring Memory in an Age of Forgetfulness by Jeff Arthurs. Kim explains how the book... more

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In this episode of the CPT Podcast, we welcome one of CPT's Senior Fellows, Dr. Matthew Kim, to discuss his new book, Becoming a Friendlier Church: A Pathway to Genuine Community. Drawing from years of mini... more

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Recent Guests

Ben Espinoza
Wesleyan pastor, CPT fellow
Avon Wesleyan Church; CPT
Episode: Good News About Self-Care | Ben Espinoza
Cole Feix
Senior Pastor at Carlton Landing Community Church
Carlton Landing Community Church
Episode: Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Cole Feix
Ryan Jackson
Senior Pastor of the Capital Church, near Raleigh, NC
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Episode: Rediscovering Pastoral and Church Identity | Ryan Jackson
Brad Embry
CPT fellow, theologian and pastor
Center for Pastor Theologians (CPT)
Episode: BONUS | Brad Embry on Books and Preaching
Dillon Thornton
CPT Fellow, lead pastor and author of Deathly Devices
Center for Pastor Theologians
Episode: Deathly (De)Vices | Dillon Thornton
Kyle Fever
CPT fellow
Center for Pastor Theologians
Episode: BONUS | Kyle Fever on Books and Preaching
Matt LaMaster
CPT fellow
Center for Pastor Theologians
Episode: BONUS | Matthew LaMaster on Books, Preaching, and Sermon Prep
Rich Kidd
Managing partner of Mission Leadership
Mission Leadership
Episode: Finding Faithful Pastors | Rich Kidd
Jonathan Griffiths
Pastor in Ottawa, Canada; author of Gathered for Good
Metropolitan Bible Church, Ottawa; author
Episode: Jonathan Griffiths | Gathered for Good

Hosts

Zach Wagner
Host of CPT Podcast focusing on pastor-theologian formation
Joel Lawrence
Co-host and CPT President, leading discussions on vocation and ecclesial leadership
Ray Paul
Co-host and CPT contributor known for discussions on pastoral leadership
Matt Kim
Co-host of The Pastor Theologians Podcast, researcher and educator
Todd Still
Dean at Truett Seminary; contributes to discourse on theological education

Reviews

4.8 out of 5 stars from 118 ratings
  • Bridging the gap of academics and pastoring

    Perhaps I like it since they feel like they’re speaking directly to me. I have an MDiv degree but feel like I have so much to learn before moving into full-time ministry. The Center for Pastor Theologians (CPT) exists to equip pastors to be theologians for today’s complex world. If nothing else, this has helped me grow in humility and in recognition of how many books I still wish to read!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    AndrewNoble14
    Canada4 years ago
  • So disappointed

    I so wanted to listen, but then heard it start with the bravado for Dan and the comment on celebrity pastors. That was an immediate turn off. That’s one of the many problems of American evangelism today..the desire to be a celebrity! So sad they’d go there

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    dobnwob
    United States4 years ago
  • Excellent Podcast

    CPT content has been vital in my sense of calling and vocation, and I don’t know of any other organization speaking about the ecclesial theologian enterprise as clearly, compellingly, and consistently as the CPT. I couldn’t recommend the podcast more.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    cmrolling
    United States4 years ago
  • Good stuff

    Good stuff

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Gwishnew3
    United States4 years ago
  • Thanks

    Thank you for helping me sort through the internal struggle; I have had growing in my spirit over the last decade. In attempts to talk with others or find a church where I believed I was on the same page. I’m still bewildered, but feel reinsured that I’m not alone.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    supercalifablous
    United States6 years ago

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A strong blend of theology and real-world ministry.
Listeners value the focus on ecclesial identity and pastoral formation.
Highlights depth and practical impact for pastor-scholars.

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Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Cole Feix
Q: How does your setting in Carlton Landing shape your vision of the pastor theologian?
The town's new urbanist design and emphasis on walkability, front porches, and social hospitality push him to cultivate relational, place-based ministry where church happens in the daily rhythms of life rather than solely inside a building.
Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Cole Feix
Q: What led you to pursue seminary and how did your education influence your vocation?
He pursued seminary with a desire to deepen his thinking and read widely, finding value in experiences at Oklahoma Christian University and Southern, where mentors and varied theological streams broadened his view of ministry and the integration of philosophy, apologetics, and scripture.
Becoming a Pastor Theologian | Cole Feix
Q: Where did you grow up and how did your early faith shape your calling?
Cole describes growing up in Oklahoma City with a strong family faith, an early exposure to liturgical elements, and a pivotal personal call after a dream and moments of prayer, which led him toward ministry rather than a traditional career path.
Good News About Self-Care | Ben Espinoza
Q: What practical advice would you give pastors about implementing self-care?
Start with Sabbath and boundaries, delegate, communicate availability to boards, and recognize that leadership requires wholeness of soul, body, and relationships. Put the self after God but before burnout—care for your own soul to sustain your calling.
Good News About Self-Care | Ben Espinoza
Q: What personal experiences shaped your view on self-care?
The pandemic exposed a pattern of ambition and anxiety in my life, showing how I sacrificed my authentic self for career. That crisis became the catalyst to reinterpret self-care as stewardship of the image of God in me, not selfishness.

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The series centers on the intersection of rigorous theological scholarship and practical ministry, often featuring pastor-theologians who discuss preaching, pastoral formation, and church leadership. Episodes frequently explore how ancient wisdom and contemporary context shape durable ministry: from sermon design and book influence to governance, care, and pastoral identity. A notable strength is the consistent focus on cultivating depth in theology within local church leadership, with guests ranging from CPT fellows to church leaders and authors, offering both scholarly and pastoral perspectives. The show is particularly valuable for listeners seeking actionable insights for preaching, mentorship, and building ecclesial identity in today's... more

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6. Kyle Fever
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8. Rich Kidd

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