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The Non-Billable Podcast

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Private Equity
London
Artificial Intelligence
Private Capital
Legal Technology
Litigation
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Quinn Emanuel
UK Legal Industry
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Law Firm Mergers
Litigation Funding
Financial Crisis
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Everton Football Club
Hill Dickinson
External Capital In Law Firms
Corporate Governance
Regeneration In Liverpool
Freshfields

The Non-Billable Podcast takes UK legal professionals beyond the billable hour, bringing you interviews with top lawyers, law firm leaders, industry experts and legal tech innovators to uncover actionable insights on the business of law, career growth and the future of the industry. Hosted by Oliver Attinger, a former finance lawyer at a leading City law firm, and brought to you by Non-Billable, t... more

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US firm Goodwin is pursuing a focused growth strategy built around six industries: private equity, investment funds, technology, life sciences, healthcare and real estate.

Chair Anthony McCusker joins the podcast to explain why the firm wants its l... more

Weil was still generating more than $2 billion a year when its partnership unravelled. Yale Law School professor John Morley says that its collapse was driven not by financial distress, but by a decline in profitability relative to its closest rivals... more

Offshore law firms play a central role in major cross-border deals and disputes, yet the market remains unfamiliar to many lawyers.

Harneys global managing partner William Peake explains how the model works, why onshore law firms are its most impor... more

PwC’s latest law firm survey points to a growing divide in the UK legal market. The largest firms are pulling ahead, specialist players are finding profitable niches and parts of the mid-market are coming under increasing pressure.

Mark Anderson, wh... more

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John Morley
Yale Law School professor and author of “Why Law Firms Collapse”
Yale Law School
Episode: Why Weil collapsed and what it means for Big Law with Yale Law School professor John Morley
William Peake
Global managing partner of Harneys and a litigator qualified in Ireland, England and Wales, the BVI and Cayman
Harneys
Episode: Inside offshore law with Harneys global boss William Peake
Mark Anderson
PwC partner leading its professional business services sector, with a forensics background
PwC
Episode: Why the UK’s biggest law firms are pulling away from the rest of the market
Jeanette Burgess
Managing Partner of Walker Morris (appointed 2024)
Walker Morris
Episode: Jeanette Burgess on taking Walker Morris beyond £100m and saying no to private equity
Simon Ridpath
Managing partner of Charles Russell Speechlys
Charles Russell Speechlys
Episode: Charles Russell Speechlys boss Simon Ridpath on building a law firm around private capital
Christian Bartsch
CEO, Bird & Bird
Bird & Bird
Episode: Christian Bartsch on Bird & Bird’s path to €1bn
Jo Farmer
Joint Managing Partner at Lewis Silkin
Lewis Silkin
Episode: Lewis Silkin’s Jo Farmer on why two managing partners are better than one
David Beech
CEO of Knights
Knights
Episode: How David Beech built Knights into a £200m law firm
Dom Griffiths
London Managing Partner, Mayer Brown
Mayer Brown
Episode: Inside Mayer Brown’s London private capital push

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Oliver Attinger
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Why Weil collapsed and what it means for Big Law with Yale Law School professor John Morley
Q: Are there some warning signs that you would suggest law firm managing partners look out for to anticipate something like this and try and avoid it?
Morley advises formerly elite firms whose profitability has fallen relative to peers to seek a merger partner, and recommends paying partners their market worth by addressing underperformance and rewarding strong performers.
Why Weil collapsed and what it means for Big Law with Yale Law School professor John Morley
Q: What made you interested in this topic of why law firms collapse?
Morley began researching the subject after Dewey & LeBoeuf collapsed despite experiencing only mild financial distress, prompting him to investigate why law firms shatter rather than recover.
Inside offshore law with Harneys global boss William Peake
Q: Why has private equity become so interested in offshore law, do you think?
Peake points to recurring revenue in corporate services, interest following investment in accounting services, and sector momentum. He says Harneys sold its fiduciary business to fund further investment and growth.
Inside offshore law with Harneys global boss William Peake
Q: Let's get into how the offshore law firm business model works. Does it kind of materially differ from onshore firms?
Peake says the basic business model is the same, but the work differs. Offshore firms advise on jurisdiction-specific disputes and transactions, while onshore law firms are central clients and referral sources.
Why the UK’s biggest law firms are pulling away from the rest of the market
Q: What's the solution to get out of this squeezed middle, do you think?
Anderson recommends connecting a firm's growth, funding and competitive choices, then investing in its chosen sector or specialty, pursuing international combinations where appropriate, and planning how to fund technology.

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The show centers on how law firms and legal services operate as businesses, with a steady stream of conversations about growth, strategy, and governance within professional services. Guests are senior leaders from top firms, private equity-backed platforms, and in-house legal teams, who share real-world insights on scaling, leadership models, and the evolving economics of legal services, including international expansion, capital strategies, and technology-enabled operations. Notably, the program frequently explores private capital, cross-border mergers, and AI-enabled lawyering, offering pragmatic takeaways for firm executives, investors, and those aiming to position legal services for long-term growth. A recurring strength is translating ... more

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