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The Non-Billable Podcast

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Private Equity
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Litigation
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Everton Football Club
Hill Dickinson
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Corporate Governance
Regeneration In Liverpool
Private Capital
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The Non-Billable Podcast takes UK legal professionals beyond the billable hour, bringing you interviews with top lawyers, law firm leaders, industry experts and legal tech innovators to uncover actionable insights on the business of law, career growth and the future of the industry. Hosted by Oliver Attinger, a former finance lawyer at a leading City law firm, and brought to you by Non-Billable, t... more

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Richard Medd, managing partner of Browne Jacobson, joins the podcast to discuss how the firm has doubled revenue over the past six years - revenue for the most recent financial year came in at a record £149m - and the strategy behind its recent growt... more

Rebecca Anderson, Microsoft's head of legal for EMEA, joins the podcast to discuss how the in-house function at one of the world's biggest tech companies is adapting to the AI era.

She explains why Microsoft has overhauled its legal operating model,... more

Brian Fahrney, chair of Sidley Austin's executive committee, joins the podcast to discuss the firm's transformation into one of the fastest-growing US law firms in London. He explains why Sidley spent years investing in private equity, how the strate... more

Segun Osuntokun, senior partner at BCLP, joins the podcast to discuss leadership, firm strategy and what it takes to run a global law firm while continuing to practise as a partner.

Having held senior leadership roles at the firm for more than seve... more

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Recent Guests

Brian Fahrney
Chair of Sidley Austin's Executive Committee
Sidley Austin
Episode: Sidley executive committee chair Brian Fahrney on London, talent and the global elite
Segun Osuntokun
Senior partner at BCLP
BCLP (Bradley, Carey, Lewis? response included in transcript as BCLP)
Episode: BCLP senior partner Segun Osuntokun on growth, mergers and weekend emails
Patrick Savage
Executive from Burford Capital focused on law firm equity investments
Burford Capital
Episode: Private equity and the future of law firms | Podcast special
Peter Jackson
Former managing partner and CEO of Hill Dickinson
Hill Dickinson
Episode: Private equity and the future of law firms | Podcast special
Adil Taha
Ex-investment banker and PE operating partner specialising in law firms
Independent adviser / consultant
Episode: Private equity and the future of law firms | Podcast special
Oscar Dean
Professional services adviser focused on financial advisory in legal sector
Grant Thornton
Episode: Private equity and the future of law firms | Podcast special
Tim Foden
Co-head of the International Arbitration Group at Boies Schiller in London
Boies Schiller Flexner
Episode: The business of international arbitration with Boies Schiller’s Tim Foden
Scott Gibson
London partner headhunter and co-founder of Edwards Gibson
Edwards Gibson
Episode: Why US firms are still winning the talent battle in London
Axel Koelsch
COO of Lawfront
Lawfront
Episode: Inside Lawfront: The PE-backed law firm group betting big on consolidation

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Oliver Attinger
Host of The Non-Billable Podcast

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Sidley executive committee chair Brian Fahrney on London, talent and the global elite
Q: What's next for Sidley in terms of expansion or focus areas?
Continued growth with attention to London, expanding in funds, private equity, and disputes, while leveraging the nylon corridor to reinforce cross-border capabilities and client coverage.
Sidley executive committee chair Brian Fahrney on London, talent and the global elite
Q: How important is talent to Sidley's strategy and what programs support developing future leaders?
Talent is critical to client service, growth, and culture. Sidley emphasizes high-quality work, strong culture, and opportunity, plus programs like Built to Lead that bring lawyers to off-site MBA-like experiences to develop leadership and business skills.
Sidley executive committee chair Brian Fahrney on London, talent and the global elite
Q: Tell me about the hardest things to get right when running a global law firm like Sidley.
The biggest challenge is balancing talent management with strategic investments in growth, making sure you hire the right people, keep them engaged, and provide a platform that allows them to develop while maintaining a strong culture and a cohesive global service.
The business of international arbitration with Boies Schiller’s Tim Foden
Q: How does the London market stand as a disputes hub nowadays?
Tim argues that London remains robust due to the appeal of English law, a vibrant disputes ecosystem, and practical advantages like the Heathrow gateway, ensuring access to clients worldwide.
The business of international arbitration with Boies Schiller’s Tim Foden
Q: What drew you to disputes work in the first place?
Tim explains that his passion for debate, performance in court, and later the international angle led him to arbitration, evolving from a courtroom focus to a cosmopolitan practice.

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The show centers on the business of law, focusing on how law firms compete, grow, and innovate beyond traditional billable work. Recent episodes spotlight private equity-backed consolidation, cross-border expansions, and the strategic and cultural shifts driving large firms and mid-market challengers. Hosts frequently explore topics like AI-enabled workflows, platform-scale back-ends for regional firms, and leadership insights from partners and CEOs navigating mergers, equity models, and new delivery approaches. It's a practical, practitioner-focused listening room for lawyers, firm leaders, and legal tech enthusiasts who want actionable takeaways on growth, governance, and the evolving market for legal services. Noteworthy patterns include... more

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