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The Non-Billable Podcast

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Private Equity
London
Artificial Intelligence
Private Capital
Legal Technology
Litigation
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Quinn Emanuel
UK Legal Industry
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Financial Crisis
Law Firms
Everton Football Club
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External Capital In Law Firms
Corporate Governance
Regeneration In Liverpool
Freshfields
Client Relationships

The Non-Billable Podcast takes UK legal professionals beyond the billable hour, bringing you interviews with top lawyers, law firm leaders, industry experts and legal tech innovators to uncover actionable insights on the business of law, career growth and the future of the industry. Hosted by Oliver Attinger, a former finance lawyer at a leading City law firm, and brought to you by Non-Billable, t... more

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PwC’s latest law firm survey points to a growing divide in the UK legal market. The largest firms are pulling ahead, specialist players are finding profitable niches and parts of the mid-market are coming under increasing pressure.

Mark Anderson, wh... more

King & Spalding is in growth mode in London. The office increased revenue by 48% last year, has expanded its footprint at 8 Bishopsgate and recently hired a major international arbitration and litigation team from WilmerHale.

London managing partner... more

Walker Morris has nearly doubled in size over the past seven years while holding on to a model that looks increasingly distinctive: one office in Leeds and no international network of its own. Revenue reached a record £90.2m last year, leaving the fi... more

Charles Russell Speechlys has expanded rapidly under managing partner Simon Ridpath, opening in Milan and Singapore before making a defining move into the US this year.

The strategy is built around the firm’s ambition to become the world’s leading ... more

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Recent Guests

Jeanette Burgess
Managing Partner of Walker Morris (appointed 2024)
Walker Morris
Episode: Jeanette Burgess on taking Walker Morris beyond £100m and saying no to private equity
Simon Ridpath
Managing partner of Charles Russell Speechlys
Charles Russell Speechlys
Episode: Charles Russell Speechlys boss Simon Ridpath on building a law firm around private capital
Christian Bartsch
CEO, Bird & Bird
Bird & Bird
Episode: Christian Bartsch on Bird & Bird’s path to €1bn
Jo Farmer
Joint Managing Partner at Lewis Silkin
Lewis Silkin
Episode: Lewis Silkin’s Jo Farmer on why two managing partners are better than one
David Beech
CEO of Knights
Knights
Episode: How David Beech built Knights into a £200m law firm
Dom Griffiths
London Managing Partner, Mayer Brown
Mayer Brown
Episode: Inside Mayer Brown’s London private capital push
Richard Medd
Managing partner of Browne Jacobson
Browne Jacobson
Episode: Richard Medd on Browne Jacobson’s growth strategy
Rebecca Anderson
Microsoft's head of legal for EMEA
Microsoft
Episode: What Microsoft expects from its law firms in the AI era
Brian Fahrney
Chair of Sidley Austin's Executive Committee
Sidley Austin
Episode: Sidley executive committee chair Brian Fahrney on London, talent and the global elite

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Oliver Attinger
Host of The Non-Billable Podcast

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Inside King & Spalding’s London growth push with managing partner Tom Sprange
Q: How is the arbitration practice being strengthened by WilmerHale's team?
The WilmerHale team brings a complementary set of arbitration strengths, creating a broader bench across senior and junior talent and aligning with the firm's global disputes strategy.
Inside King & Spalding’s London growth push with managing partner Tom Sprange
Q: What drove the London office's revenue growth and the big hires from WilmerHale?
A combination of strategic lateral hires, ongoing organic growth, and a focus on high-value practices like disputes and funds finance that generate substantial client work.
Inside King & Spalding’s London growth push with managing partner Tom Sprange
Q: How does London fit into the firm's wider international strategy?
London is a crucial hub and the most important market in Europe for international law firms, serving as a bridge to non-US offices and a center for high-value work across many industries.
Christian Bartsch on Bird & Bird’s path to €1bn
Q: What markets outside Europe show promising growth for Bird & Bird?
Growth is client-led and focused on tech-rich, data-rich regions where clients need a deeper footprint, such as San Francisco, Riyadh, Tokyo, and Lisbon, with India frequently discussed as a strategic opportunity.
Christian Bartsch on Bird & Bird’s path to €1bn
Q: Is a merger something Bird & Bird would consider, and if so, under what conditions?
A merger is not off the table in theory, but any deal would require cultural and strategic fit and would not be pursued merely for scale; currently they are happy with their San Francisco presence and client-led international expansion.

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The show centers on how law firms and legal services operate as businesses, with a steady stream of conversations about growth, strategy, and governance within professional services. Guests are senior leaders from top firms, private equity-backed platforms, and in-house legal teams, who share real-world insights on scaling, leadership models, and the evolving economics of legal services, including international expansion, capital strategies, and technology-enabled operations. Notably, the program frequently explores private capital, cross-border mergers, and AI-enabled lawyering, offering pragmatic takeaways for firm executives, investors, and those aiming to position legal services for long-term growth. A recurring strength is translating ... more

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