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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT
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The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over ... more

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Latest Episodes

The Private Practice Pivot: How Therapists Are Adapting to Platforms, Agency Work, and the Changing Therapy Economy

Are therapists leaving private practice - or simply adapting to a changing mental health economy?

Curt Widhalm, LMFT, and Katie Vern... more

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Is Independent Private Practice Sustainable? Data on Caseloads, Insurance & Income

Is independent private practice still financially sustainable?

Curt and Katie sit down with Lindsay Oberleitner, PhD, Director of Clinical Strategy at SimplePractice... more

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Why You’re Exhausted in Private Practice: The Hidden Work Behind the Client Hour

Exhausted in private practice - even with a “manageable” caseload?

Seeing 20-25 clients a week does not mean you’re working 20-25 hours. Every client hour includes hid... more

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Burnout Recovery in a Failing System – An Interview with Shaina Siber, LCSW

Therapists are navigating hiring freezes, wage stagnation, insurance instability, identity-level threats, and mounting systemic uncertainty — all while supporting clients ex... more

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Recent Guests

Shaina Siber
Clinical social worker, integrative therapist, focus on burnout recovery
Private practice in Arizona
Episode: Burnout Recovery in a Failing System: ACT, Moral Injury & Reclaiming Agency – An Interview with Shaina Siber, LCSW
Rebecca Haw Allensworth
Law professor; antitrust scholar; author of The Licensing Racket
Vanderbilt Law School
Episode: The Licensing Racket: Therapist Licensing, Discipline, and Access to Care – An Interview with Rebecca Haw Allensworth
Robyn Goldberg
Registered dietitian nutritionist and certified eating disorder dietitian
Private practice in Los Angeles
Episode: Why Food Anxiety Is Not Always About Dieting: Understanding ARFID and Intuitive Eating An interview with Robyn L. Goldberg, RDN, CEDS-C
Mick MacLaverty
Founder of Highway Benefits, which helps companies contribute to employee student loans
Highway Benefits
Episode: Why the Math Doesn’t Work: How Student Loan Debt Hits Therapists Harder Than Other Professions – An Interview with Mick MacLaverty
Marvin Vasquez
Second-year Marriage and Family Therapy student at California State University, Northridge.
Phoenix House, California
Episode: Special Series: Becoming a Therapist - Becoming a Therapist as a First-Generation Clinician-in-Training: An Interview with Marvin Vasquez
Derek Isetti
Recent graduate of a Master's of Social Work program and aspiring therapist
University of the Pacific
Episode: Special Series: Becoming a Therapist - After Graduation: Starting a Therapy Career on a Nontraditional Path - An Interview with Derek Isetti
TJ Walsh
Licensed Professional Counselor and creative entrepreneur
TJ Walsh Therapy
Episode: When Therapy Goes Vibe-Forward: The Cost of Losing Clinical Depth - An Interview with TJ Walsh, LPC
Angela Caldwell
Family therapist and coach, focusing on building healthy family dynamics around dinner tables.
Caldwell Family Institute
Episode: REPLAY: Working With Politically Divided Families with Angela Caldwell, LMFT
Dr. Travis Heath
Licensed psychologist and professor specializing in systemic issues in therapy.
Metropolitan State University of Denver
Episode: REPLAY - Therapy As a Political Act: An Interview with Dr. Travis Heath

Hosts

Curt Widhalm
Co-host and host of The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide, with involvement in therapy education and practice guidance.
Katie Vernoy
Co-host of The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide, frequently collaborating on strategy, discussion topics, and guest selection.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 316 ratings
  • Modern Therapist Survival Guide is vital!

    Thank you for the great podcast! It has been vital to my learning after graduate school. I appreciate you sharing real world experiences and advocacy work for therapists to earn a living wage and take care of themselves. Love the banter and laughing and sense of humor too!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Beach Commute is vital!
    United Statesa year ago
  • I learn something new every week. The hosts are very entertaining and knowledgeable. They also choose interesting and insightful guests.

    Audible
    5
    zoprano
    United Statesa year ago
  • A great resource for therapists and anyone interested in therapy!

    I learn something new every week. The hosts are very entertaining and knowledgeable. They also choose interesting and insightful guests.

    Audible
    5
    zoprano
    United Statesa year ago
  • Superb.

    In a sea of spaces that place talking points and agendas over people and impact, Curt and Katie got it right about the antisemitism and anti-Palestinian experiences of therapists in these communities. They covered both lived experiences so well, and showed that one does not erase or obscure the other. Well, done. Truly.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    KiwiWithUmbrella
    United States2 years ago
  • Resourceful podcast

    I have been listening to The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide for a few years since I started my small practice. I have generally found their podcasts to be insightful, educational, and a great free resource. I am surprised by some of the negative reviews. I will say that most PP therapists will find this podcast interesting and educational. I have enjoyed about 95% of all the podcasts I’ve listened to. I have found a couple unhelpful but that is just me. I really appreciate the topics covered ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Smfish
    United States2 years ago

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Thoughtful, practical discussions that help therapists grow professionally and personally.
High-quality guests and real-world insights; great resource for therapists and students.
Some critiques mention tonal inconsistencies or moments that feel condescending to guests or listeners.
Listener feedback often highlights the value of real-world applicability and advocacy-focused discussions.
The banter and openness are engaging, though some episodes have sparked debates about tone or sensitivity.
Hosts strike a good balance between education and humor, making tough topics approachable.

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Special Series: Becoming a Therapist - Starting Out After Graduate School: Team-Based Care, Stability, and Early Career Decisions - An Interview with Eden Lathem
Q: What are your goals for the next year?
Eden aims to do more training, take her exam, and continue learning and growing in her career as a therapist.
Special Series: Becoming a Therapist - Starting Out After Graduate School: Team-Based Care, Stability, and Early Career Decisions - An Interview with Eden Lathem
Q: What has the process been like as far as graduating and getting registered with your state licenses board?
Eden mentioned it was challenging and required a lot of help from her professors, but finally got her temporary license fairly easily.
Why the Math Doesn’t Work: How Student Loan Debt Hits Therapists Harder Than Other Professions – An Interview with Mick MacLaverty
Q: What are some suggestions for people to take control of their financial situations regarding student debt?
People should call their loan servicer to understand their options, explore refinancing to lower interest rates, and consider employer-sponsored repayment plans.
Why the Math Doesn’t Work: How Student Loan Debt Hits Therapists Harder Than Other Professions – An Interview with Mick MacLaverty
Q: How have federal policies around student debt evolved over the last five years?
Federal policies have come under scrutiny as parents and students question the worth of taking on student loan debt, with political discussions influencing perceptions and realities of student debt repayment and forgiveness plans.
Why the Math Doesn’t Work: How Student Loan Debt Hits Therapists Harder Than Other Professions – An Interview with Mick MacLaverty
Q: What do therapists need to know about student loan debt today?
Therapists should understand the general impact of student debt, the statistics regarding their specific profession, and how their financial situation compares to other industries, particularly that therapists typically carry higher levels of debt and may face challenges in repayment due to inconsistent income.

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A practical, clinician-focused podcast that centers on modern therapy practice, clinician well-being, and real-world applications. Episodes commonly explore how technology, policy, and social issues intersect with mental health work, featuring discussions on topics like AI's impact on clinical judgment, eating disorders, trauma and vicarious exposure, student debt, licensure pathways, and the dynamics of private practice. The hosts typically balance tough questions with accessible guidance, often inviting guests who bring lived experience, clinical expertise, or regulatory insight to help therapists navigate current challenges while maintaining empathy and human connection. A notable strength is the blend of therapy education, personal stor... more

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4. Mick MacLaverty
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7. TJ Walsh
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