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The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy

Curt Widhalm, LMFT and Katie Vernoy, LMFT
Mental Health
Therapy
Private Practice
Artificial Intelligence
Burnout
Therapy Practices
AI In Therapy
Social Justice
Self-Care
Community Mental Health
Clinical Supervision
Ethics In Therapy
Anxiety
Immigration
Trauma-Informed Care
Behavioral Health
Couples Therapy
Marriage and Family Therapy
Migrant Rights
Informed Consent

The Modern Therapist’s Survival Guide: Where Therapists Live, Breathe, and Practice as Human Beings It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when clinicians must develop a personal brand to market their private practices, and are connecting over ... more

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Why AI Mental Health Chatbots Fail When It Matters Most: The Hidden Vulnerabilities Stress-Testing Reveals - An Interview with Shirali and Arul Nigam of Circuit Breaker Labs

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Recent Guests

Megan Toomey
Product team lead at SimplePractice
SimplePractice
Episode: How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimplePractice
Ian Knox
Chief Product Officer at SimplePractice
SimplePractice
Episode: How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimplePractice
Shirali Nigam
Co-founder of Circuit Breaker Labs, focused on autonomously stress-testing AI for mental health
Circuit Breaker Labs
Episode: Why AI Mental Health Chatbots Fail When It Matters Most: The Hidden Vulnerabilities Stress-Testing Reveals – An Interview with Shirali and Arul Nigam of Circuit Breaker Labs
Arul Nigam
Co-founder of Circuit Breaker Labs, AI research and technical lead
Circuit Breaker Labs
Episode: Why AI Mental Health Chatbots Fail When It Matters Most: The Hidden Vulnerabilities Stress-Testing Reveals – An Interview with Shirali and Arul Nigam of Circuit Breaker Labs
Samuel Nieves
Board member and survivor of Conversion Therapy; leads within Conversion Therapy Survivor Network
Conversion Therapy Survivor Network
Episode: Supporting Conversion Therapy Survivors After Chiles v. Salazar: SOGIECE, Clinical Care, and Community Response – An Interview with Samuel Nieves
Tom Bruett
Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and author focusing on queer relationships
Queer Relationship Institute
Episode: The Seven Stages of Queer Love: Therapy with Queer Couples, Queer Sex, and the Developmental Model - An Interview with Tom Bruett, LMFT
Hoala Greevy
Founder and CEO of Paubox
Paubox
Episode: Modern Therapist's Consumer Guide: Paubox. HIPAA Compliant Email, Secure Communication, and Practice Privacy. An Interview with Hoala Greevy, Founder and CEO of Paubox
Chelsea Maldonado
Lived experience expert and survivor of the troubled teen industry
1111 Media Impact (Paris Hilton-founded nonprofit)
Episode: Inside the Troubled Teen Industry: Wilderness Therapy, Residential Treatment, and the Harm Done to Kids – An Interview with Chelsea Maldonado and Dr. Will Dobud
Jessica Tomich Sorci
LMFT focusing on maternal mental health and author
Author of When Good Moms Feel Bad
Episode: When Good Moms Feel Bad: Supporting Mothers in Therapy with IFS and the Mom Parts Method – An Interview with Jessica Tomich Sorci, LMFT

Hosts

Curt Widhalm
Host of The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide; seasoned clinician with focus on private practice, clinician wellness, and practical guidance for therapists.
Katie Vernoy
Co-host of the show; experienced clinician and advocate known for practical, candid conversations about the realities of modern therapy and practice management.

Reviews

4.4 out of 5 stars from 325 ratings
  • Adapting EMDR for neurodivergent clients

    The title of the episode is “Adapting EMDR for neurodivergent clients”, yet, it was all rambling to get a point across with very few actual adaptations for ND clients. Waste of time to listen to. I thought they would go through each of the phases with tangible adaptations like the description and title imply.

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    emmackaa
    Canadaa month ago
  • Missed opportunity

    Listened to allyship show. Please give some actual case examples. Too abstract. Thank uou

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    4
    rabidmoderate
    United States2 months ago
  • Lacking Integrity

    It’s incredibly disappointing that this podcast which claims to be advocating for therapists’ and clients’ best interests and to recommend social activism are sponsored by and advertising for Simple Practice given the numerous unethical things Simple Practice has done and continues to do! Gross!!

    Apple Podcasts
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    Courageous Therapist
    United States5 months ago
  • Modern Therapist Survival Guide is vital!

    Thank you for the great podcast! It has been vital to my learning after graduate school. I appreciate you sharing real world experiences and advocacy work for therapists to earn a living wage and take care of themselves. Love the banter and laughing and sense of humor too!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Beach Commute is vital!
    United States2 years ago
  • I learn something new every week. The hosts are very entertaining and knowledgeable. They also choose interesting and insightful guests.

    Audible
    5
    zoprano
    United States2 years ago

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Many find the show a vital resource for staying current on therapy practices and practice management
Audience appreciates candid banter and humor that humanizes clinicians while tackling tough topics
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Guests and topics are diverse, including survivor perspectives and practical clinical critiques
Some critics note tonal issues but still admire the depth of clinical insights and advocacy

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How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimplePractice
Q: How does SimplePractice handle data, training, and model safety?
SimplePractice does not train its underlying AI models with client data; instead, it uses expert-curated datasets and a private model layer, with options to opt in or out of data retention and strict controls on PHI visibility.
How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimplePractice
Q: What are the best practices for using AI with clients and notes?
Be transparent with clients, obtain consent, review AI-generated notes to catch any missing or inaccurate details, and progressively adopt tools that fit your workflow while grounding usage in clinical judgment.
How AI Tools for Therapists Are Built: Trust, Data Privacy, and Choosing What to Adopt - An Interview with Ian Knox and Megan Toomey of SimplePractice
Q: What do therapists need to know when they're adding AI to their practice?
Trust in the vendor, HIPAA compliance, and a clear understanding of each tool's use cases are essential, with clinicians encouraged to start with what they're comfortable using and to verify data practices and security.
Why AI Mental Health Chatbots Fail When It Matters Most: The Hidden Vulnerabilities Stress-Testing Reveals – An Interview with Shirali and Arul Nigam of Circuit Breaker Labs
Q: How do you balance safety with user experience and engagement in these tools?
By layering a lifeguard model that can intervene when risk is detected, escalating to human support when appropriate, and ensuring guardrails are rigorous but not so invasive that they remove the utility and accessibility of the tool.
Why AI Mental Health Chatbots Fail When It Matters Most: The Hidden Vulnerabilities Stress-Testing Reveals – An Interview with Shirali and Arul Nigam of Circuit Breaker Labs
Q: What is the core safety problem you are addressing with your stress-testing approach?
The core issue is that many mental health chatbots, especially those built on general foundations, can respond in unsafe ways or fail to recognize imminent risk; thus they must be tested with diverse, real-world expressions and clinical insights to prevent harm.

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A practitioner-focused show that centers on modern clinical practice, therapist well-being, and private practice realities. Across episodes, the hosts explore actionable strategies for managing burnout, sustaining long-term therapy careers, and navigating the business side of practice, all while pushing for ethical care, social advocacy, and innovative approaches to mental health. Guests typically include practicing clinicians, survivor advocates, and researchers who offer real-world insights into systems, therapy techniques, and policy changes that affect therapists and their clients. Noteworthy angles include debunking industry myths, critiquing therapeutic practices, and highlighting tools and tech that support clinicians without sacrifi... more

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