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The Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies is proud to present The Aerospace Advantage, with Heather ”Lucky” Penney as the host. Every week, Lucky takes listeners into the world of aerospace power and help the audience understand what it takes to fly and fight in the sky, while also protecting America’s interests in space. Whether talking to top generals, standing on a flight line full of combat... more

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Collaborative Combat Aircraft (CCA) represent the next generation of uncrewed autonomous airpower. The Air Force recently awarded a series of contracts that will see the FQ-42 and FQ-44 CCAs transition to the operational realm. We w... more

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Whether discussing Operation Epic Fury from a strategic, operational, or tactical vantage, there's no doubt that China watched the conflict with extreme attention. There are significant lessons that range from gaining air superiorit... more

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The ties between the French Air Force and U.S. Air Force go back to the dawn of aviation and have been intertwined ever since: from early Wright Brothers flights, the Lafayette Escadrille, World War II, operations in Afghanistan, an... more

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When the United States was drawn into WWII, it was wholly unprepared for conflict. By June 6, 1944, America was unleashing its burgeoning military might. This largely tied back to a miracle of production in nearly every facet of the... more

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Recent Guests

Dave Mach Cochran
Longtime Anduril executive, former Air Force fighter pilot
Anduril
Episode: CCA Update: What Are the Next Steps? — Ep. 296
Pierre Gaudillière
Brigadier General, Commander of the French Air Combat Command
French Air and Space Force / NATO partner
Episode: Allied Airpower Perspectives: Brig Gen Pierre Gaudillière, Commander of the French Air Combat Command — Ep. 294
Richard Aboulafia
Managing Director at Aerodynamic Advisory
Aerodynamic Advisory
Episode: Victory Through Production: Lessons from D-Day — Ep. 293
David Kooler Krumm
Retired Lieutenant General, U.S. Air Force; discusses Epic Fury and Midnight Hammer observations
BAE Systems
Episode: Epic Fury Lessons Learned: Lt. Gen. “Kooler” Krumm, USAF (Ret.) — Ep. 291
Jonas Wikman
Major General, Commander of the Swedish Air Force
Swedish Air Force
Episode: Allied Leadership Conversation: Maj Gen Wickman, Commander of the Swedish AF — Ep. 290
Ronald Fogleman
Former Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force
U.S. Air Force
Episode: Want to Reset the Air Force? Lessons from the Reagan Build-Up — Ep. 289
Michael Loh
Former Vice Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force; first commander of Air Combat Command
U.S. Air Force
Episode: Want to Reset the Air Force? Lessons from the Reagan Build-Up — Ep. 289
Dean Deptola
Dean of the Mitchell Institute for Aerospace Studies
Mitchell Institute
Episode: Want to Reset the Air Force? Lessons from the Reagan Build-Up — Ep. 289
Chuck DeBellevue
Ace fighter pilot who shot down six MiGs in 1972
U.S. Air Force (Vietnam-era veteran)
Episode: Innovate to Survive: Vietnam Air Combat Perspectives Part 2 — Ep. 287

Hosts

Doug Birkey
Mitchell Institute Executive Director; subject-matter expert on C2ABM and space/air defense
Heather Lucky Penney
Host; Senior fellow and flight-operations experience; long-time Mitchell Institute associate; known for ground-breaking discussions on air and space power

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 163 ratings
  • Did I hear that right?

    In this weeks episode it sounded like you said the United States has lost 2000 MQ-9’s—was that correct?!?!

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    Kevinneedstheword
    United Statesa month ago
  • Magnificent Vietnam episodes

    Thank you so much for the episodes with the Vietnam heroes. Those guys are an absolute treasure.

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    Kevinneedstheword
    United States2 months ago
  • Air Superiority Episode 277

    Inspiring discussion! Thank you for making it so clear and easy to understand that building back the number of planes is of the highest priority. I will share this episode! Thank you!

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    Dsds8787
    United States5 months ago
  • More a military needs money and is great show

    Highly biased pro weapons and use of power. I expect them to be more nuanced and less "this is why we need more to do this mission. And it is 100% fine and no nuance entertained". It is jingoistic with the most rudimentary perspective about laws and the international situation.

    Basically it's we love the military type show. Intellectually vapid. If you care about military tactics and operations but get smarter POV's on strategic thinking on other podcasts. then valuable. But it is so b... more

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    why do i need a nickname2
    United Statesa year ago
  • Ukraine redefined air superiority

    I have the utmost respect for Lt Gen Deptula and your crew but the discussion on small UAVs was unfulfilling because the way they are being used in the Ukraine and Iran conflicts gives completely new need for localized air defense which you failed to address effectively with existing doctrine and force application.

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    Kevinneedstheword
    United Statesa year ago

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Great host questions and guests with unfiltered expertise.
Many request more diverse guest representation.
Some critics note perceived bias and scripted dialogue at times.
Listeners praise accessible, insightful discussions on air and space power.
Audience appreciates high-level strategic context and historical perspective.

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Global Reach, Global Power: B-1 Flightline Update — Ep. 275
Q: How did that change the mindset?
It shifted the deployment focus and made close air support a primary mission, although the strategic purpose of bombers remained important.
Global Reach, Global Power: B-1 Flightline Update — Ep. 275
Q: What does global reach, global power mean to you through that bomber lens, and why should people care about the bomber mission?
It emphasizes the importance of bombers as a critical component providing mass, range, speed, and deterrence effect in global military operations.
Even Aces Have Heroes: Major Bob Lodge’s Ultimate Sacrifice — Ep. 268
Q: How did Bob Lodge make a significant impact during the Vietnam War?
He developed tactics, found new equipment, employed technology, and made strategic decisions crucial for the airmen's missions.
Artificial Intelligence and Aerospace Power: Industry Leadership Insights — Ep. 255
Q: What do you think is foundational to building that orientation or that sense-making?
The quality of information and the ability to assess it plays a crucial role in making effective decisions.
Fixing the Munitions Gap: Building the Bullseye — Ep. 249
Q: How does Bullseye fit within the General Atomic munitions portfolio?
Bullseye is unique yet complements existing products by leveraging proven components while fulfilling new military capabilities.

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Explores aerospace power and space operations through interviews with senior military leaders, policy researchers, and industry experts. Episodes frequently dissect air and space superiority, defense modernization, multi-domain operations, and technology like space-based sensing, AI, and launch systems, often pairing historical lessons with contemporary strategy and procurement insights. A standout trait is the high-level access to seasoned generals, space force leaders, and Mitchell Institute analysts, offering actionable context for decision-makers and sponsors interested in defense policy, aerospace hardware, and warfighting concepts. The show's focus on multi-domain deterrence, alliance building, and industrial base resilience makes it ... more

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2. Pierre Gaudillière
3. Richard Aboulafia
4. David Kooler Krumm
5. Jonas Wikman
6. Ronald Fogleman
7. Michael Loh
8. Dean Deptola

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