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The Messy Truth - Conversations on Photography

Gem Fletcher
Photography
Motherhood
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Identity
Photography Curation
Abortion Care
Community
Art
Environmental Justice
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Vulnerability
Creative Process
Gender Issues
Imposter Syndrome
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Feminist Care Networks
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Reproductive Rights
Lou Stoppard
Annie Ernaux

Photo Director Gem Fletcher hosts The Messy Truth, a podcast dedicated to the world of contemporary photography featuring exclusive interviews with emerging and leading artists, curators and critics. Listen in to these candid conversations that unpack photography and why it connects us all in such transformational ways. Follow Gem’s Instagram @gemfletcher for images of photographs discussed in eac... more

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In this episode, Gem Fletcher talks to Naima Green about her exhibition, ‘Instead, I spin fantasies’ presented at ICP in New York in 2025/26. The show, which was curated by Elisabeth Sherman, grapples with the concept of pregnancy and parenthood thro... more

In this episode, Gem Fletcher talks to Daniel Shea about his latest book, Distribution which began with a simple question: how do you photograph a forest?  In this roving conversation they explore the genesis of Distribution while discussing everythi... more

In this episode, Gem Fletcher talks to Amelia Abraham about her latest book, Sex, Clubs, Dissent: Visualising Queer Nightlife, where she crafts an expansive visual exploration of queer nightlife in all its many iterations. The book is a love letter t... more

In this episode, Gem Fletcher talks to Ahndraya Parlato about her latest book, TIME TO KILL an interrogation of gendered aging, unpacking the ideals of beauty, caretaking, and maternal and domestic duty imposed on women over the course of their lives... more

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Recent Guests

Naima Green
Artist and educator focused on intimate, collaborative photography and conversations around parenting, community, and identity
Independent artist
Episode: Naima Green - On Practice
Amelia Abraham
Journalist and author
London-based journalist and author
Episode: Amelia Abraham - On Sex, Clubs and Dissent
Ahndraya Parlato
Artist and writer based in New York
Episode: Ahndraya Parlato - On the Inbetween
Chieska Fortune Smith
Photographer with Japanese-African American heritage; discussed her upbringing, collective learning and mentorship
Freelance photographer (clients include Days, Burberry, Dior, Sixteen Journal, Twin Magazine, Wallpaper)
Episode: Chieska Fortune Smith - On Collective Learning
Kathy Ryan
Former Director of Photography at The New York Times Magazine, now an artist, curator, and educator.
Episode: Between Two Worlds - On Future Storytelling with Kathy Ryan
Gideon Jacobs
New York-based writer contributing fiction and non-fiction to various publications
Episode: Gideon Jacobs - On Images
Lisa Barnard
A British artist whose photography focuses on real events and explores technological progress and ecological issues.
University of South Wales
Episode: Lisa Barnard - On Perception
Charlotte Jansen
Writer, bookmaker, and curator based in London.
Episode: Charlotte Jansen - On Discovery
Amak Mahmoodian
Bristol-based artist working with photography, text, video, and drawing.
University of West England
Episode: Amak Mahmoodian - On Dreaming

Host

Gem Fletcher
Host and lead interviewer with a focus on contemporary photography and critical discourse.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 380 ratings
  • Necessary

    Learning a lot. Im a 30 year old obsessed photographer who imagines myself sticking with this medium for a long time. These conversations are crucial for someone like me to think critically about what we do, the impact we can have, and the future of photography.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JordonHon
    Canada7 months ago
  • Kooiker

    Wonderful interview by Gem that provides an excellent insight from Kooiker into the approach to his photographic practice. Very honest, sincere and inspiring words.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BIP2024
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • Enjoyable Photography chats

    Extremely knowledgeable host with very interesting guests. I think it will appeal to those in the photo world and people with a general interest in the creative process. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mr. S. Rose
    United Statesa year ago
  • Thoughtful, fresh and great guests

    Really glad I cam across your podcast. A few episodes in and already your episodes have kept me going whilst in the studio. Great studio-making listening. Photography content giving me confidence to just keep going and exploring.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Femmeartdesire
    Australia3 years ago
  • thank you, Gem!

    I regretfully didn’t have the opportunity to study photography for my college degree, despite knowing that this is what I’ve always wanted to do. I graduated feeling like I’d missed out on my biggest opportunity to learn about so many facets of image making, leaving my knowledge of the practice with so many gaps that I felt I could never cross.

    Gem’s well-curated roster of guests and their incredibly insightful, wise discussion of photography has been a huge lifeline for me during such an unce... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Mariel Wiley
    United States3 years ago

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The host is seen as a thoughtful, skilled interviewer who draws rich, candid insights from guests.
Episodes are valued for their open, accessible exploration of complex topics in photography and visual culture.
Listeners praise the thoughtful, honest conversations that deepen understanding of photography.
Guests frequently described as honest and inspiring, with insightful practice-based discussions.
Audience finds the series a vital, under-told resource for learning about contemporary photography and its impact.

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#157
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#34
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#87
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#168
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#199
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Talking Points

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Naima Green - On Practice
Q: How do you describe your collaborative approach to photography beyond this show?
Green emphasizes that collaboration is foundational, enabling risk-taking, openness, and mutual trust that strengthen the image and allow for more expansive, human-centered outcomes.
Amelia Abraham - On Sex, Clubs and Dissent
Q: What was your research process like doing this, especially given ideas dating back to 2019?
She explains a phased, interview-driven, and archival approach, balancing a broad field with a focused selection of contributors, and how practical constraints shaped a non-chronological, experiential structure that mimics a night out.
Amelia Abraham - On Sex, Clubs and Dissent
Q: Before we talk about your latest book, I wanted to ask you how you get curious about things and what drives your impulse to do the work that you do.
Abraham describes a long-standing interest in nightlife, subcultures, and the changing political and social landscape around queer communities, which motivates her to explore the visual history through photography and writing.
Ahndraya Parlato - On the Inbetween
Q: You're ready for quick-fire—how do you deal with self-doubt?
I don't doubt my art making much; doubt often lives in other aspects of life, while in art I rely on a sense of Fidelity to the project.
Ahndraya Parlato - On the Inbetween
Q: You found your collaborators on Craigslist, right?
Many collaborators came to me during a period of transition, and the mutual desire to be seen created a productive, intimate dynamic in shoots.

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Insightful conversations with leading and emerging figures in photography, focusing on how image making intersects with identity, society, technology, and storytelling. Episodes frequently explore mentorship, collaboration, ethics, and the evolving role of photography in culture, from documentary impulses to personal and political expression. The format tends to blend personal history with practical craft, offering actionable ideas for photographers, editors, and curators while highlighting contemporary voices shaping the field. A notable strength is its willingness to tackle timely topics—gender, race, representation, AI, and the politics of image-making—through candid, thoughtful dialogue.

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8. Charlotte Jansen

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