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The Messy City Podcast

Kevin Klinkenberg
Urban Development
Urban Planning
Kansas City
Tupac Shakur
Local Businesses
Akron, Ohio
Housing Affordability
Public Transportation
Urban Design
Community Engagement
Commercial Real Estate
Inflation
Public Safety
Cleveland, Ohio
Strong Towns
New Urbanism
Kansas City Streetcar
Real Estate Development
Community Development
Kansas City Royals

Embracing change, uncertainty and local initiative for our cities and towns kevinklinkenberg.substack.com

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Kevin’s note: Apologies on the audio quality. Riverside did something funky to this episode, and I did my best to correct it.

We all love to study success, and learn how to emulate it. Allan Branch likes to study failure. He studied it for his busin... more

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Nolan Gray is the author of the very successful book, “Arbitrary Lines: How Zoning Broke the American City and How to Fix It.” If you’re in the planning and zoning world, you’ve likely heard of it or read it. If you haven’t, run right out and do it. more

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A developer colleague recently said to me, “I’ve only lived and worked in an era where cities are getting better. Now, I’m not so sure that’s the case anymore.” His comment along with a whole lot of other inputs got me to thinking - what if he’s righ... more

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Mike Hathorne has been around the New Urbanism movement for over twenty years. That means he has that rare combination of idealism, practicality, and persistence. Nowadays, you can find Mike with Visionary Homes in Utah.

While the principles of New ... more

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Recent Guests

Nolan Gray
Author of Arbitrary Lines and urban planning expert
Episode: A Conversation with Nolan Gray
Ward Davis
Real estate developer focused on town centers and new urbanism
High Street Real Estate Development
Episode: Development is Harder Than You Think
Kevin Klinkenberg
Architect, urban planner and author of the Messy City publication
Midtown Casey Now
Episode: Discussing Messy Cities on the Challenger Cities Podcast
John Zeanah
Chief of Development and Infrastructure for the city of Memphis
City of Memphis
Episode: Pay Attention to What is Happening in Memphis
Jaime Izurieta
Local economic development expert specializing in storefront design and business coaching
Storefront Mastery
Episode: The Past and Future of Retailing
John Haigh
Chair of the architecture program at Benedictine College
Benedictine College
Episode: Starting a new Architecture School, Rooted in the Classics
Emily Hamilton
Senior Research Fellow and Director of the Urbanity Project at the Mercatus Center
Mercatus Center
Episode: State-Level Code Reforms for More and Better Housing
Terrell Jolly
Small builder and developer champion in Kansas City
Episode: Bootstrapping Small Scale Affordable Housing
Jeff Siegler
Founder of Revitalize or Die, urban development consultant
Revitalize or Die
Episode: Will Your Town Revitalize or Will it Die?

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Kevin Klinkenberg
Host and urban planning advocate focusing on the complexities and practicalities of urban design and community revitalization.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 52 ratings
  • A great listen even for non-experts like me

    I’m a dilettante urbanist, and this podcast is one of my favorites for hearing experts break down how to improve our cities in tangible ways. Kevin does a great job of keeping the conversations informative yet still accessible for non-technical folks like me.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    the stellion
    United Statesa year ago
  • Econ Dev

    This is my favourite economic development podcast hands down, even ahead of the Strong Towns podcasts. The exploration to incremental development and small developers is super useful information even for small towns. Very insightful and useful conversations. I recommend this to anyone in Econ dev, town/city administration, councils, etc.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Frontball
    Canadaa year ago
  • Great information

    Enjoying listening to what others are doing around the country. Inspiring interviews and discussions.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Lake Dallas Tiny Home Village
    United Statesa year ago
  • Must-listen for the KC urbanist

    If you’re interested in urban development (especially small-scale and incremental) in midsize American cities, this is required listening. Cities like Kansas City have so much potential, and hearing nitty-gritty stories of how people are making change is really beautiful and inspiring.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    FeralJosh
    United States2 years ago

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Many commend the in-depth discussions that provide insightful perspectives on urban development and policies.
Listeners appreciate the podcast's accessibility, finding it informative even if they aren't experts in urban planning.
The podcast is particularly valued for its focus on practical solutions for improving cities, resonating with both professionals and the community-at-large.

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#56
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A Conversation with Nolan Gray
Q: What brought you to California?
Nolan moved to California to pursue a PhD at UCLA in city planning after a transformative event, with the aim to work in housing reform.
A Conversation with Nolan Gray
Q: Where did you grow up and how did you get into this field?
Nolan Gray grew up in Lexington, Kentucky, and got into urbanism after experiencing suburban life and then moving to DC, where he fell in love with urban living.
The Changing Face of Household Types
Q: How did you get into planning and development?
I began working for my father selling real estate and had a transformative experience visiting the Kentlands, which sparked my interest in new urbanism.
From House Hacking to Building Success in Real Estate
Q: What advice do you give to younger people interested in getting into real estate?
I think the first thing is to learn from others in the industry by getting a job in a particular role and to start out small, buying something manageable.
Pay Attention to What is Happening in Memphis
Q: What advice might you give younger people in the field who think about planning?
Zeanah advises emerging planners to focus on implementation and understanding how their plans can be achieved, rather than just writing policies.

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The content focuses on the multifaceted aspects of urban planning and development, with a particular emphasis on challenges faced by mid-sized American cities. Core themes include discussions on zoning regulations, housing affordability, and the myriad factors influencing urban environments. Noteworthy episodes provide in-depth conversations with experts from various fields, including urban planners, architects, and policymakers, who share their insights on how to navigate urban complexities and foster community engagement. The podcast uniquely highlights the importance of incremental development and grassroots initiatives in revitalizing urban areas, offering listeners practical knowledge and inspiration for enhancing their own communities... more

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1. Nolan Gray
2. Ward Davis
3. Kevin Klinkenberg
4. John Zeanah
5. Jaime Izurieta
6. John Haigh
7. Emily Hamilton
8. Terrell Jolly

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