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The Making of One Nation

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One Nation
Donald Trump
Pauline Hanson
United States
Australian Politics
Civilian Control Of the Military
Donald J. Trump
Populism
One Nation (australia)
Viktor Orbán
Stephen Miller
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The Supreme Court Of the United States
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Loyalists In Military

From a fish and chip shop in regional Queensland to the heart of Australian politics: this is the unlikely story of the country’s most controversial minor party. For thirty years, One Nation and Pauline Hanson have been ridiculed, dismissed and shut out. Now, no one is laughing. This is the story of how a party built on fear and grievance thrived, died and rose again to upend Australian politics. ... more

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One Nation didn't emerge in a vacuum, then or now.

The global surge in right-wing populism has propelled the party and thirty years on, it’s arguably stronger than ever.

But is its popularity a protest or a fundamental realignment of Australian p... more

The media made Pauline Hanson and One Nation, but now the party holds all the power.

It’s a perfect storm for democracy: a shrinking and cowering traditional media, the toxic algorithms of the unmoderated social media cess pit and the warped reality... more

It’s never held government, or even opposition, yet One Nation’s managed to exert an outsized influence on the public policy agenda.

From borders to migration, multiculturalism to Indigenous affairs, the far-right party has mastered mainstreaming an... more

We’d all like deeply considered policy and informed debate to be at the heart of politics, but unfortunately controversies and scandals tend to steal the show.

For most parties, scandals are disastrous: they lose seats, ministers and elections — but... more

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Recent Guests

Jill Sheppard
Political scientist at the Australian National University
Australian National University
Episode: 6 | The Making of One Nation: seize the moment?
Kurt Sengul
Political scientist, Macquarie University
Macquarie University
Episode: 5 | The Making of One Nation: master the media
Pauline Hanson
Leader of One Nation
One Nation
Episode: 5 | The Making of One Nation: master the media
Tim Bale
Professor of Politics at Queen Mary University of London
Queen Mary University of London
Episode: 4 | The Making of One Nation: move the centre
Josh Sunman
Lecturer in Public Policy at Flinders University
Flinders University
Episode: 4 | The Making of One Nation: move the centre
Jordan McSweeney
Researcher focusing on far-right parties and scandals
University of Canberra
Episode: 3 | The Making of One Nation: survive a scandal
Ben Moffat
Political scientist and host/interviewer
Monash University
Episode: 2 | The Making of One Nation: define the enemy
Anna Brunowski
Documentarian with access to Pauline Hanson's inner circle, author and senior lecturer
University of Sydney
Episode: 1 | The Making of One Nation: enter the outsider
Lucan Way
Professor of democracy
University of Toronto
Episode: The Making of an Autocrat: Suppress the people

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Justin Bergman
Host focusing on The Making of an Autocrat series; International Affairs Editor for The Conversation in Australia.

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4.7 out of 5 stars from 3 ratings
  • Insightful and Well-Researched

    As someone who strongly opposes Pauline Hanson and One Nation, I found myself completely absorbed by the first episode. It’s a compelling listen for anyone wanting to understand the PH phenomenon, and how she’s able to provoke such a strong following and reaction.

    Highly recommended, but consider yourself warned… don’t try this at home or in public. 🤗

    Apple Podcasts
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    GJOESQ
    Australia3 months ago

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6 | The Making of One Nation: seize the moment?
Q: Okay. So let's go to that idea of a One Nation without Pauline Hanson. What is the succession plan and does the party survive without her?
The experts suggest the party could survive Pauline Hanson's absence, with potential leadership coming from emerging One Nation MPs or state-level figures, but it would be a significant test for its brand and organisational structure.
The Making of an Autocrat: Recruit an architect
Q: What makes Stephen Miller different from other Trump aides?
He combines deep loyalty with a knack for communicating radical ideas in palatable terms, giving him sustained influence and access to the president.
The Making of an Autocrat: Hijack a party
Q: What turning points shift a party toward autocracy, and how does that affect democracy in the long run?
Turning points include elite acceptance of a leader's narrative, the erosion of independent institutions, and the deliberate use of media to redefine the party as a vehicle for one person rather than a platform for policy, which gradually diminishes checks and creates a pathway toward autocratic governance.
The Making of an Autocrat: Hijack a party
Q: You're an associate professor in political science at Michigan State University. What makes for a good strongman?
A good strongman is often described as someone who can sell a narrative that a decisive leader is needed to fix societal problems, while leveraging populist ideas to undermine trust in experts and conventional institutions, and who can bypass traditional party structures through new media to build personal legitimacy.
The Making of an Autocrat: Co-opt the military
Q: What did you make of that video when it happened? What did it say to you about this moment in American politics?
It indicated that there is a potential for the administration to push illegal or questionable orders to the military, given the purging of unbiased military lawyers and the loyalty structures surrounding the defense leadership.

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A rigorous, documentary-style examination of populist politics, with a strong emphasis on the mechanisms and strategies used by controversial parties and leaders to gain and maintain power. Across episodes, the show analyzes civil-military relationships, judicial independence, crisis framing, party co-option, and the role of media in shaping democratic norms. Notable strengths include in-depth scholarly context from political science and law experts, accessible explanations of complex institutional dynamics, and a consistent focus on how autocrats consolidate power in varied political systems. Potential listeners who enjoy analytical dissections of power, governance, and democratic resilience will likely find this show especially engaging, ... more

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