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The Hardest Podcast to Podcast

Ryan Schaap
The White Stripes
Jack White
Icky Thump
Meg White
Elephant
De Stijl
Rock Music
White Blood Cells
Get Behind Me Satan
Detroit
Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame
Patreon
Music
White Stripes
Hotel Yorba
Hotel Mira
Aluminum
Little Acorns
Little Cream Soda
Vancouver

The Hardest Podcast to Podcast celebrates The White Stripes discussing one song at a time. The show is simple: one White Stripes song a week, at random. Ryan Schaap sits down with a guest host to cover one song and discuss its legacy and its role in the band's catalogue. Working hard to celebrate everyone's favourite duo, Jack White and Meg White. Hosted and produced by Ryan Schaap Artwork by Cait... more

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Latest Episodes

"Nobody sang the blues like Blind Willie McTell." Jack White said it best, and in late 2000, the White Stripes released an amalgamation of two of McTell's songs, "Lord, Send Me an Angel" and "Ticket Agent Blues."

Ryan and Courtney discuss the song,... more

After receiving an invitation to an exclusive event featuring Jack White at Reverb in Chicago, Ryan hopped aboard a red-eye flight, made his way to Goose Island, and did what we've all been waiting more than a year for him to do: ask Jack White to be... more

The Denial Twist was the third and final single from 2005's Get Behind Me Satan and the final White Stripes music video directed by Michel Gondry.

Ryan and Josh discuss the demo recordings of the melody and piano riff captured on Jack White's handh... more

An interesting track off 2001's White Blood Cells, "Offend In Every Way" tells the akward teenage story of not being able to fit in anywhere while battling with imposter syndrome.

Ryan and Kyle have a lively discussion about the themes of this song... more

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Recent Guests

Courtney Presto
Branding director who analyzes color and design in music visuals
Independent branding/creative professional
Episode: Lord, Send Me An Angel ft. Courtney Presto
Kyle Rosse
Host of Hey Smiling Strange, podcast about DIY scenes and independent music
Hey Smiling Strange
Episode: Offend in Every Way ft. Kyle Rosse
Mike Noble
Member of Hotel Mira, Gato on the show
Hotel Mira
Episode: Slowly Turning Into You ft. Mike Noble (Hotel Mira)
Brad Tolinski
Editor-in-Chief of Guitar World for over 25 years; author
Guitar World
Episode: Ball and Biscuit ft. Brad Tolinski
Rob Harvilla
Host of 60 Songs That Explain The 90s, Cole in the 2000s
60 Songs That Explain The 90s
Episode: The Hardest Button To Button ft. Rob Harvilla
Charlie Kerr
Lead singer of Hotel Mira
Hotel Mira
Episode: It's True That We Love One Another ft. Charlie & Matt Kerr
Matt Kerr
Film producer and drummer in Terrifying Girls High School
Terrifying Girls High School
Episode: It's True That We Love One Another ft. Charlie & Matt Kerr
Dwight Abell
Member of The Zolas; solo project Dwye
The Zolas
Episode: Hypnotize ft. Dwight Abell (The Zolas)
Ben Blackwell
Co-founder of Third Man Records, drummer of The Dirtbombs
Third Man Records
Episode: Blue Orchid ft. Ben Blackwell (The Dirtbombs)

Host

Ryan Schaap
Host of The Hardest Podcast to Podcast

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 58 ratings
  • Long Live the White Stripes

    Love the White Stripes and lovin this show! Ryan’s a great host and I’m glad he’s taking the time to go song by song. Well-researched and good guests, it’s fun listening to someone who loves the Stripes as much as I do. Keep it up!! Can’t wait to hear Jack on the show!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    DenialTwister
    Ireland4 months ago
  • Show up Mr. White!

    Host Schaap does great job breaking these down one by one. (DONT stop breaking down…heh). Passion projects come and go, but HP2P takes us all down memory lane through media and sentiments not unearthed from my drug addled memory since the dawn of this cursed millennium. I have been, in all seriousness, reminded weekly of an innocent time when I believed this smallest of musical collectives truly was the only band that mattered. And maybe in some little room up there (heh…), it still is.

    Hop... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cold Gold 45
    United States5 months ago
  • I like the show

    This show is good.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    WarbirdCoach
    United States9 months ago
  • Solid Podcast

    I heard about this podcast on Reddit and thought I would give it a listen. I have been into the White Stripes for a couple decades, but for new fans, I still think it is a worthwhile listen. Even if you aren’t interested in gold mines, oil wells, shipping, or real estate.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Robert L Brown
    United Statesa year ago
  • Infotainment entermation

    Great podcast about a band i liked first

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    freight train woowoo
    Canadaa year ago

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Lord, Send Me An Angel ft. Courtney Presto
Q: Why is the song considered part of The White Stripes' live-performance canon?
Because the track was designed with live performance in mind, with multiple versions and ad-libbing elements that make live performances central to its interpretation and evolution.
Lord, Send Me An Angel ft. Courtney Presto
Q: What was Courtney's connection to the White Stripes before this episode?
She described herself as a casual fan who became deeply interested in their approach to visual branding and color psychology, which informs how she analyzes their artwork.
Offend in Every Way ft. Kyle Rosse
Q: What stands out to you turning on Offend In Every Way?
The song's contrast between a refined vocal delivery and the raw, adolescent angst creates a timeless quality; the language is precise and societally observant, making a personal confession feel universal.
The Hardest Button To Button ft. Rob Harvilla
Q: Rob, the next time you listen to this song, what goes through your mind?
I'll think about the ransom-note construction and the burn of every letter, how deliberate and crafted that approach is, and how it frames the way I'll experience the song again.
Lovesick (Live at the Forum) ft. Kaylie Russell
Q: What lyrics or lyric structure first drew Kaylie to Lovesick as a song to discuss?
Kaylie points out that the song's narrative unfolds in a way that hooks the listener with each line, and she highlights how the structure keeps the listener guessing what comes next, which mirrors the way Dylan stories unfold in his storytelling tradition.

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This show analyzes a single White Stripes track per episode, inviting a guest with a relevant music or design background to explore the song's origins, production, cultural context, and lasting impact. Across episodes, conversations often thread together studio anecdotes, live histories, and the duo's evolving legacy, with a strong emphasis on how each track fits into the broader catalog and rock history. Notable strengths include deep, story-driven breakdowns, guest perspectives from musicians, designers, and producers, and a playful yet meticulous approach to mythologizing the band while remaining vocal about its artistic craft. Potential listeners will likely enjoy nerdy yet accessible explanations of guitar tones, recording setups, and ... more

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