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The Experimental Leader

Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford
Leadership
Diversity and Inclusion
Vulnerability In Leadership
Empathy In Leadership
Coaching
Mental Health
Kind Leadership
Organizational Culture
Professional Development
Inclusivity
Leadership Development
Collaboration
Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
Transgender Representation
Operational Excellence
Health Care Content Creation
Podcasting
Contextual Leadership
Transgender Leadership
Authenticity

Are you a business owner, executive, leader, team leader, aspiring future leader, leadership junkie, a scientist, a design thinker, or simply the leader of your own life? If you are, then you are a leader, and as such, you should be experimenting!

Welcome to The Experimental Leader, a podcast where we tackle the ways leaders are experimenting in their own work. Hosted by Melanie Parish and Dr. Me... more

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In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish speaks with Dr. Mel Rutherford about leading through crisis, identity, and organizational transformation, drawing from his book The Glass Cliff: One Trans Man’s Leadership Odyssey.

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In this episode of Traps and Tricks, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford explore two leadership challenges that often go hand in hand: criticism and emotions.

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Welcome to Skill Up, the newest segment of The Experimental Leader Podcast, where Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford break down practical leadership skills that help leaders grow, develop teams, and create lasting impact.

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In this episode of The Experimental Leader Podcast, Melanie Parish and Mel Rutherford are joined by Jacob Chase, CEO of Infin, for a strategic exploration of leadership, accountability, and the future of human performance.

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Recent Guests

Jacob Chase
Founder and CEO of Infin, a performance intelligent platform
Infin
Episode: Decoding Human Performance with Jacob Chase
Roz Cohen
Inclusion strategist, founder of Socius Strategies
Socius Strategies
Episode: From HR to Human-Centered Leadership with Dr. Roz
Dr. Tracy Christopherson
Co-founder of Missing Logic, professor
Missing Logic / McMaster University
Episode: Leading Without Burnout with Michelle Troseth & Dr. Tracy Christopherson
Michelle Troseth
Co-founder of Missing Logic
Missing Logic
Episode: Leading Without Burnout with Michelle Troseth & Dr. Tracy Christopherson
Dr. Carol Scott
TEDx and keynote speaker, bestselling author, coach
Speaker and coach specializing in trauma-sensitive leadership
Episode: Trauma-Informed Leadership with Dr. L. Carol Scott
Paulo Gregory
Designer, facilitator, community builder focused on transforming systems through collaboration and collective wisdom
Cohado
Episode: Leading Through Collective Wisdom with Paulo Gregory
Dr. Torben Noerby
Leadership expert, CEO of People & Performances, and author of The Contextual Leader.
People & Performances
Episode: Leading in Context: Dr. Torben Noerby on Adaptive Leadership
Charlotte Otter
Author, speaker, and podcast host with experience in leading global communication teams.
Episode: Reputation, Resilience, and New Leaders with Charlotte Otter
Colonel Bree Fram
An astronautical engineer and one of the highest-ranking out transgender officers in the U.S. military.
U.S. Space Force
Episode: Transcending Limits: Leadership, Identity, and Advocacy in Uniform with Col. Bree Fram

Hosts

Melanie Parish
Host of the show and experienced executive coach with a focus on problem-solving, constraints, and leadership development.
Dr. Mel Rutherford
Co-host; professor and leadership researcher with a background in psychology and development.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 22 ratings
  • Great Team

    It was so refreshing to talk about leadership with Melanie and Mel! I look forward to listening to it!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dr.l.carol
    United States3 months ago
  • Exploring Leadership with Authenticity and Care

    I had the pleasure of being a guest on Melanie's podcast and was truly impressed by her unique perspective on leadership, which I had already admired in her book. Melanie's authenticity and care for every business relationship she creates are evident in every episode. Together, we experimented with exploring the power of narratives in leadership, which was a fascinating and enriching experience. We are so lucky to have this podcast as a resource to reinvent who we are as leaders. Highly recommen... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Guillaume Wiatr
    United States2 years ago
  • What a fantastic podcast!

    Every conversation is so interesting, I am enjoying the diverse topics and the questions that Melanie and Mel asks of their guests.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    donna_wallace
    Australia2 years ago
  • Great POV

    It was so refreshing to talk about leadership with Melanie! Her “experimental” take on the subject was a great fit for my SASSy framework! Loved being on this show.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    dr.l.carol
    United States4 years ago
  • Refreshing approach to the leadership conversation!

    It was extremely refreshing to communicate about experimental approaches to leadership! It is inevitable that we must take necessary risks, learn from mistakes and experiment our way into growing as leaders. Melanie makes this journey psychologically safe by framing it as experimental. Thanks for holding the space for us to explore, learn and grow together!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Scrappy Kimberly
    United States4 years ago

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Decoding Human Performance with Jacob Chase
Q: Where can listeners connect with you or learn more about Infin?
Jacob can be reached on LinkedIn and via email at jacob@theinfin.com; the company provides diagnostic assessments and continuous feedback at scale.
Decoding Human Performance with Jacob Chase
Q: How do you handle implicit bias in the data you collect?
Bias tends to be neutralized when you aggregate a broad set of perspectives; a market-like system helps ensure that no single source dominates, though it's still a valid concern that requires ongoing scrutiny and diverse input.
Decoding Human Performance with Jacob Chase
Q: What makes your approach to measuring human performance different from traditional HR-led methods?
We aggregate multiple perspectives with weights determined by how esteemed a person is within the team, which creates a decentralized, real-time view of performance that captures both tangible results and interpersonal dynamics.
Decoding Human Performance with Jacob Chase
Q: Jacob, how are you currently experimenting in your life or work?
We're running a real-world experimentation process in our company to figure out the right mix of moving the business forward while serving all stakeholders, with a focus on how to gather and weight diverse perspectives to understand performance.
Leading Without Burnout with Michelle Troseth & Dr. Tracy Christopherson
Q: How do you cultivate a shared purpose and align roles and strengths within a team?
By starting with dialogue to uncover desires and meaning, aligning with core values, clarifying roles, and leveraging each member's unique gifts to balance the team toward a common goal.

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The show centers on leadership experimentation, exploring how leaders test ideas, gather data, and iterate on strategies across organizational life. Episodes emphasize practical frameworks for addressing feedback, emotional dynamics, burnout, and how to balance vision with execution. Unique angles include polarity intelligence, context-adaptive leadership, and collaborative, non-hierarchical approaches to leading teams. The conversation style is geared toward actionable takeaways for leaders, managers, and entrepreneurs seeking measurable improvement through structured experimentation and data-informed decisions.

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1. Jacob Chase
2. Roz Cohen
3. Dr. Tracy Christopherson
4. Michelle Troseth
5. Dr. Carol Scott
6. Paulo Gregory
7. Dr. Torben Noerby
8. Charlotte Otter

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