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The Conversation Art Podcast

Michael Shaw
Art Market
Cancel Culture
Social Media
Instagram
Art World
Louis Ck
Contemporary Art
Thieves
Ai In Art
Zombie Formalism
Debt Aesthetics
Ceramic Figurines
Seattle
New York City
Galleries
Cai Guo-Qiang
Artillery Magazine
Art Basel
Nan Goldin
Scope Art Show

A podcast featuring both one-on-one and three-way roundtable conversations with contemporary artists, dealers, curators, and collectors--based in Los Angeles, but reaching nationally and internationally.

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In Episode 372, the 1st half of the conversation with Amsterdam-based painter and photographer Claire Witteveen, she talks about:

Her putting off painting initially in favor of photography, for reasons both practical and related to insecurity, part... more

Gabrielle de la Puente, half of the art critic duo The White Pube, talks about:

A few things people outside of the UK need to know about Liverpool, where she’s based; the origin story of the White Pube, when Gabrielle and Zarina were in art schoo... more

After learning about the Lights Out Meta campaign, a boycott on all Meta platforms from January 19th thru January 26th, 2025, it sounded like a good idea, and after reading about it more extensively, I think it's a necessary one.

Here are the artic... more

Founder of the SCOPE Art Show, Alexis Hubshman talks about everything from its size (approx. 300,000 sq ft of exhibition space), to the number of galleries exhibited (95 from 27 countries) to how he makes the fair run smoothly; his support of new and... more

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Claire Witteveen
An artist living in Amsterdam who works with painting and photography.
Episode: Painting, photography, and hard but necessary decisions: Claire Witteveen, an artist in Amsterdam
Alexis Hubshman
Founder of Scope Art Show and experienced figure in the art fair scene
Scope Art Show
Episode: Epis. 370: Bullish on Miami 2024- SCOPE Art Show founder Alexis Hubshman
Gabrielle De La Puente
Art and Culture Critics Duo, The White Pub
The White Pub
Episode: Epis.#369: Cancel Culture Part 2 (Louis C.K.) and getting Stickered and Nan Goldin’s Gagosian show
Orlando Whitfield
Author of "All That Glitters, A Story of Friendship, Fraud, and Fine Art," and former art dealer
Episode: Epis. 363- Friendship and Fraud in the Art World, with author and former art dealer Orlando Whitfield
Debra Broz
Seattle-based artist known for her work with ceramic figurines
Episode: Epis. 357- Seattle artist Debra Broz on her studio routines, love of work as well as successfully navigating "the feel bad machine" that is Instagram

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Michael Shaw
Host of engaging conversations with artists, curators, and art professionals, focusing on contemporary issues in the art world.

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4.5 out of 5 stars from 326 ratings
  • My favorite

    The Conversation is my favorite of the art oriented podcasts that I listen to. The interviewer is genuine and genuinely interested in learning about those that he’s talking with. Really informative and of-the-moment. On the other hand, the conversation doesn’t come off as trendy...in a good way. The episodes are varied and unbiased with artists coming from different walks of life. They’re not all from the same school for example. Talking about how artists afford life lately is an important topic... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    worthyette
    United States6 months ago
  • Beware of “Practice” Bleeps

    The censoring of the word “practice” is done so loudly that I literally almost lost control of my car when changing lanes one time. I have stopped listening to the podcast because it became unsafe while driving. The guests are great, but seriously, this is about art, you don’t need to censor a word you don’t like. Let people express themselves and use the words they want and let us be the judge as to whether it was “academic” or not. So dumb.

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    Deexz
    United Statesa year ago
  • Another great conversation

    A wonderful conversation with author of the book “ The Death of the Artist”; I only wish it had been longer! So much food for thought. Michael hits on many topics that are important to artists trying to navigate the ever-changing art world. I will definitely read this book.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    mobylino
    United States2 years ago
  • Great art podcast

    I am not an artist, I just enjoy art. Michael brings on a variety of thoughtful guests who have some fascinating insights into the art world. I look forward to hearing more! For those starting out, the Hannah Wohl episodes are incredible!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Jibbliediggs
    United States2 years ago
  • Insights and knowledge

    Always informed, interesting and relevant. Michael is a great interviewer who doesn’t shy away from asking some more difficult questions to get to the core of what makes the art world go round. This is vital listening for anyone in the art world and those who want to know more!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Stefanie K-H.
    Germany2 years ago

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Episode 368: Tulsa Kinney on her 18 years running Artillery magazine and her complicated relationship with the art world
Q: Was there a combination of things that led to your selling the magazine?
It was a combination of feeling isolated after my husband's death, growing tired of the magazine, and experiencing the corporate feel of the evolving art world.
Epis. 357- Seattle artist Debra Broz on her studio routines, love of work as well as successfully navigating "the feel bad machine" that is Instagram
Q: How did you manage to find an affordable studio that's essentially near downtown?
There are lots of studio buildings that have been divided up into studio spaces.
Epis. 363- Friendship and Fraud in the Art World, with author and former art dealer Orlando Whitfield
Q: If your feelings about the relationship have changed or evolved even further since writing the book?
Orlando expresses a sense of being spent by discussing it but feels he provided a fair portrayal of Inigo, despite some negative reactions from him.

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