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The Contemplative Pastor

Practicing the Way
Spiritual Formation
Discipleship
Inner Life
Spirituality
Mortality
Catechumenate
Jesus
Community
Forgiveness
Church Around the Table
Rule Of Life
Relational Spirituality
Transformation
Burnout
Pastoral Crisis
Leadership
Pastoral Ministry
Cancer
Early Christianity
Emotionally Healthy Discipleship

For the pastor who longs to embody a less hurried, less overwhelmed, less CEO-like form of leadership, and to recover the ancient path of pastoring in the way of Jesus.

The Contemplative Pastor features insightful teachings from guides and sages on key topics within spiritual formation, along with practical conversations on those teachings between Bryan Rouanzoin and Bethany Allen, pastors from Ca... more

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Where does deep transformation in the church begin?

In this episode, Drew Hyun is joined by John Mark Comer to wade into the everyday pastor’s wrestle with the slow, often hidden work of formation in leadership. Together, they reflect on issues of p... more

What if the burdens we often feel in pastoral work come from doing ministry for God, without God?  

In this episode, Drew Hyun invites pastors to honestly consider a painful tension that many leaders experience: the possibility of ministering for Go... more

If spiritual formation were the primary goal of your church, what might need to change?

In this episode, John Mark Comer invites us to consider whether the way we have organized church life is actually forming people into maturity in Christ, and the... more

How can you reorder your life for the sake of others? 

In this episode, Ken Shigematsu is joined by John Mark Comer to discuss how to turn the vision of the way of Jesus into a lived way of life. Together, they reflect on the challenges of reshaping... more

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Drew Hyun
Speaker and pastor featured in the episode
Emotionally Healthy Discipleship / Emotionally Healthy Leadership
Episode: The Emotionally Healthy Leader: Part 2 (Featuring Drew Hyun and John Mark Comer)
Ken Shigematsu
Speaker; pastor; author
Practicing the Way Pastors Conference
Episode: Caring For Your Soul: Part 1 (Featuring Ken Shigematsu)
Dr. Gerald Sittser
Theologian and speaker discussed in the Q&A
Whitworth University (former), theologian
Episode: Rediscovering the Catechumenate: Part 2 (Q&A with Dr. Gerald Sittser and John Mark Comer)
Gerald Sittser
Church historian and speaker at the Practicing the Way Pastors Conference (guest)
Practicing the Way/Conference
Episode: Rediscovering the Catechumenate: Part 1 (Featuring Dr. Gerald Sittser)
Jay Kim
Speaker and pastor emphasized in the talk
Practicing the Way / Conference lecturer
Episode: Resistance and Reimagination (Featuring Jay Kim and John Mark Comer)
Todd Hall
Conference speaker; Relational Spirituality researcher
Episode: Relational Spirituality: Part 1 (Featuring Dr. Todd Hall)
Rich Villodas
Pastor and speaker at Practicing the Way Pastors Conference
New Life Fellowship Church, Queens, NY
Episode: The Narrow Path of Formation (Featuring Rich Villodas)
John Mark Comer
A well-known pastor and author primarily focused on spiritual formation
Practicing the Way
Episode: Spiritual Formation in the Future of the Church (Featuring John Mark Comer)

Hosts

Bethany Allen
Co-host; pastor involved in contemplative pastoral leadership discussions.
Bryan Rouanzoin
Co-host; main voice in pastoral formation conversations.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 57 ratings
  • Thank you

    Thank you for this podcast - it has been life-giving. I’ve never encountered a podcast I’ve found myself going back to in order to re-listen multiple times. This is a treasure trove. Sincerely grateful.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    shilltune
    United Statesa month ago
  • Powerful and Beautiful

    This has been the most helpful resource I’ve found for creating and nurturing a spirit led, contemplative culture within our church! The wisdom, practical application and thoughtful/intentional reflections are both powerful and beautiful. I wait every week for a new episode to drop! Thank you so much for this podcast! Please never stop creating this kind of content! It’s so desperately needed for churches today navigating this current cultural moment.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LC@TheTable
    United States2 months ago
  • For Pastors Who Plan to Endure

    There are other fruitful and helpful ministry podcasts, and I enjoy them all. Yet this one is uniquely and focusedly about the beautiful calling of ministerial vocation and the surrender needed to live it to Christ. No church growth or leadership development, just a rich theology of pastoral work. I'll be revisiting this often.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Skiibojosh
    United States3 months ago
  • Really Helpful

    Really helpful content for pastors integrating spiritual formation into the life of our churches. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    benshanks
    Australia4 months ago

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The format blends teaching with reflective prayer, which many find distinctive and valuable.
Guests are seen as credible experts in spiritual formation and pastoral care.
Listeners appreciate the focus on slow, formation-centered ministry and practical spiritual disciplines.
Listeners often mention applying concrete practices (rule of life, Sabbath, relational spirituality) to real church life.
Podcast is praised for authenticity and depth, with emphasis on formation over programmatic growth.

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The Emotionally Healthy Leader: Part 2 (Featuring Drew Hyun and John Mark Comer)
Q: How do I implement pastoral imagination and lead change without breaking faithfulness to the leaders and the vision of the church?
The guest suggests that practical, radical incrementalism is key, coupled with patience for discernment and waiting for the right season, while maintaining a clear sense of calling and seeking spiritual direction to gauge when to act.
Resistance and Reimagination (Featuring Jay Kim and John Mark Comer)
Q: How should churches handle social media with younger generations?
Be honest about the limits of social platforms, recognize that attention is not the same as presence, and experiment with intentional, slower engagement strategies that emphasize real community and spiritual formation rather than constant online noise.
Resistance and Reimagination (Featuring Jay Kim and John Mark Comer)
Q: What does a pragmatic shift look like for a large church in a digital age?
Share concrete steps such as transitioning to internal communication channels, reducing apps, using structured prompts like family examine prompts, and adopting a 'taste and see' approach to digital tools while prioritizing transformation over information.
Church Around the Table
Q: With the Dunbar Principle in mind, do you have a plan for knowing how great the need is for community like this?
They mentioned it's reproducible and have successfully started communities in various locations.

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What is The Contemplative Pastor about and what kind of topics does it cover?

The show centers on a slower, more contemplative approach to pastoral leadership, emphasizing spiritual formation, interior life, and resisting performance-driven ministry. Across episodes, hosts and invited guests discuss practices like rule of life, sabbath keeping, catechumenate, and relational spirituality, often with practical guidance for building healthy church cultures, mentoring pastors, and fostering communal, embodied faith. Noteworthy is the consistent pairing of practical ministry talks with reflective prayer and story, plus a strong emphasis on ancient spiritual disciplines adapted for today's church context.

Listeners likely include pastors, church staff, and people studying theology who want to align ministry with a quieter... more

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1. Formation with John Ortberg
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3. Bridgetown Audio Podcast
4. The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
5. The Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast

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Recent guests on The Contemplative Pastor include:

1. Drew Hyun
2. Ken Shigematsu
3. Dr. Gerald Sittser
4. Gerald Sittser
5. Jay Kim
6. Todd Hall
7. Rich Villodas
8. John Mark Comer

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