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The Contemplative Pastor

Practicing the Way
Spiritual Formation
Discipleship
Inner Life
Spirituality
Mortality
Catechumenate
Jesus
Community
Forgiveness
Church Around the Table
Rule Of Life
Relational Spirituality
Burnout
Transformation
Leadership
Pastoral Ministry
Pastoral Crisis
Cancer
Early Christianity
Emotionally Healthy Discipleship

For the pastor who longs to embody a less hurried, less overwhelmed, less CEO-like form of leadership, and to recover the ancient path of pastoring in the way of Jesus.

The Contemplative Pastor invites you into illuminating conversations with guides and sages on spiritual and pastoral formation, and offers guided prayers and reflections to help you sit with the rich wisdom of each episode.

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Latest Episodes

What happens when we make peace with the reality that there are no ideal conditions in which to pastor?

In this episode, join Jay Kim and Glenn Packiam for a conversation on finding “your little patch of the world” to be the pastor God has called yo... more

What if our weariness as pastors isn’t a sign of failure, but rather a sign that we’re measuring success by the wrong metric?

In this episode, Bryan Rouanzoin and Bill Dogterom seek to reconcile Jesus’ promise of an “easy yoke” with the pervasive we... more

What if the most vital work of spiritual formation isn’t first in your church, but in the hidden story you’re already living with God? 

In this episode, join Bryan Rouanzoin and Todd Pickett for a conversation on what it means to truly be a contempl... more

How can we pastor without sacrificing our own souls on the altar of hurry and anxiety?

In this episode, join Jay Kim and Alan Fadling for a wide-ranging conversation on the inner pace of pastoral ministry. Drawing from over four decades in ministry,... more

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Recent Guests

Todd Pickett
Pastor and rector, Anglican tradition
Holy Trinity Anglican Church, Costa Mesa
Episode: Finding God and Your True Self in Your Story (Featuring Todd Pickett)
Alan Fadling
Founder of Unhurried Living; author of An Unhurried Life and A Non-Anxious Life
Unhurried Living
Episode: Pastoring in the Presence, Not Absence, of God (Featuring Alan Fadling)
AJ Sherrill
Pastor, spiritual director, and author of Being with God
Anglican Parish in Charleston, South Carolina
Episode: The Kind of Pastor the Kingdom Flows Through (Featuring AJ Sherrill)
John Ortberg
Author and pastor, prominent voice in spiritual formation
(various pastoral roles; associated with practical theology circles)
Episode: A Conversation Between John Ortberg and John Mark Comer (Part 1)
John Mark Comer
Pastor and writer, prominent voice in spiritual formation
Bridgetown Church
Episode: A Conversation Between John Ortberg and John Mark Comer (Part 1)
Tyler Staton
Pastors conference speaker delivering the teaching
Practicing the Way Pastors Conference
Episode: Becoming A Creative Pastor (Featuring Tyler Staton)
Gemma Ryan
Speaker at Practicing the Way Pastors Conference
Practicing the Way Pastors Conference
Episode: The Hidden Life (Featuring Gemma Ryan)
Drew Hyun
Speaker and pastor featured in the episode
Emotionally Healthy Discipleship / Emotionally Healthy Leadership
Episode: The Emotionally Healthy Leader: Part 2 (Featuring Drew Hyun and John Mark Comer)
Ken Shigematsu
Speaker; pastor; author
Practicing the Way Pastors Conference
Episode: Caring For Your Soul: Part 1 (Featuring Ken Shigematsu)

Hosts

Jay Kim
Host of the conversation and interlocutor in discussions about contemplative ministry and formation.
Bryan Rouanzoin
Co-host and primary host across discussions on formation and leadership rhythms.
Bethany Allen
Co-host and pastor contributing to discussions on contemplative formation and pastoral rhythms.
John Mark Comer
Pastor and author featured in discussions on spiritual formation and leadership rhythms.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 99 ratings
  • Thank you

    Thank you for this podcast - it has been life-giving. I’ve never encountered a podcast I’ve found myself going back to in order to re-listen multiple times. This is a treasure trove. Sincerely grateful.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    shilltune
    United States5 months ago
  • Powerful and Beautiful

    This has been the most helpful resource I’ve found for creating and nurturing a spirit led, contemplative culture within our church! The wisdom, practical application and thoughtful/intentional reflections are both powerful and beautiful. I wait every week for a new episode to drop! Thank you so much for this podcast! Please never stop creating this kind of content! It’s so desperately needed for churches today navigating this current cultural moment.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    LC@TheTable
    United States6 months ago
  • For Pastors Who Plan to Endure

    There are other fruitful and helpful ministry podcasts, and I enjoy them all. Yet this one is uniquely and focusedly about the beautiful calling of ministerial vocation and the surrender needed to live it to Christ. No church growth or leadership development, just a rich theology of pastoral work. I'll be revisiting this often.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Skiibojosh
    United States6 months ago
  • Really Helpful

    Really helpful content for pastors integrating spiritual formation into the life of our churches. Thank you!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    benshanks
    Australia7 months ago

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Listeners praise practical formation tools and real-world applications.
Appreciation for the contemplative, non-fast-paced approach to ministry.
Pastors speak to a grounded, slower form of ministry.
High-quality discourse on spiritual formation beyond typical leadership talk.

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Pastoring in the Presence, Not Absence, of God (Featuring Alan Fadling)
Q: What does unhurried leadership look like in day-to-day pastoral work?
It involves prioritizing presence over pressure, choosing practices that cultivate listening, rest, and trust in God, and translating anxious energy into prayer rather than frantic activity.
The Emotionally Healthy Leader: Part 2 (Featuring Drew Hyun and John Mark Comer)
Q: How do I implement pastoral imagination and lead change without breaking faithfulness to the leaders and the vision of the church?
The guest suggests that practical, radical incrementalism is key, coupled with patience for discernment and waiting for the right season, while maintaining a clear sense of calling and seeking spiritual direction to gauge when to act.
Resistance and Reimagination (Featuring Jay Kim and John Mark Comer)
Q: How should churches handle social media with younger generations?
Be honest about the limits of social platforms, recognize that attention is not the same as presence, and experiment with intentional, slower engagement strategies that emphasize real community and spiritual formation rather than constant online noise.
Resistance and Reimagination (Featuring Jay Kim and John Mark Comer)
Q: What does a pragmatic shift look like for a large church in a digital age?
Share concrete steps such as transitioning to internal communication channels, reducing apps, using structured prompts like family examine prompts, and adopting a 'taste and see' approach to digital tools while prioritizing transformation over information.
Church Around the Table
Q: With the Dunbar Principle in mind, do you have a plan for knowing how great the need is for community like this?
They mentioned it's reproducible and have successfully started communities in various locations.

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What is The Contemplative Pastor about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Conversations center on slower, more contemplative pastoral leadership, emphasizing interior formation, relational leadership, and the integration of spiritual practices into everyday ministry. Episodes frequently explore themes like resisting burnout, the tension between outcomes and presence, and the value of communal authority, solitude, and Sabbath rhythms. Notable twists include live-formatted conversations with well-known pastors and authors, a strong emphasis on practicing the ancient path of ministry, and practical guidance for implementing discipline, catechesis, and relational spirituality in local churches. Listeners are likely pastors and church leaders seeking steadier rhythms, deeper spiritual formation, and healthier leadersh... more

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2. Alan Fadling
3. AJ Sherrill
4. John Ortberg
5. John Mark Comer
6. Tyler Staton
7. Gemma Ryan
8. Drew Hyun

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