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The C.L.I.M.B. with Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter

Johnny Dwinell and Brent Baxter
Songwriting
Music Industry
Country Music
Creativity
Music Business
Songwriting Pro
Nashville
Networking
Digital Marketing
Creative Process
Spotify
Relationships
Co-Writing
Music Publishing
Song Title Challenge
Daredevil Production
Collaboration
Independent Artists
Song Demos
Social Media

Helping Singers, Songwriters, and Indie Artists Create Leverage In the Music Business.

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CLIMBers, today's guest is hit songwriter, JT Harding, who's co-written "Smile" by Uncle Kracker, "Somewhere In My Car" by Keith Urban, "Sangria" by Blake Shelton, "Somewhere With You" and "Bar At The End Of The World" by Kenny Chesney, "Different F... more

This is an excerpt from Songwriting Pro's "J.A.M. Session." (J.A.M. stands for "Just Ask Me," and it's our monthly members-only online Q&A Session.) If you'd like to watch the full J.A.M. Session, just log in to the Songwriting Pro Member Area. If yo... more

CLIMBers, a revolution is coming, led by the indie artists, and if you want to be a part of it, you'd better start paying attention to your business model. Do you want to run your business throwing darts in the dark? Can you pay your mortgage, rais... more

Johnny & Brent welcome James Otto, a powerhouse vocalist, hit songwriter, and one of the most soulful voices in modern country music, to The Challenge, where they dream up 5-6 different conceptual angles for writing a song titled "Tickled Pink". As... more

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Recent Guests

Kris Rochester
Founder of Run the Roost, artist growth consultant
Run the Roost
Episode: Ep 526: Interview with Artist Manager, Kris Rochester
Andy Sheridan
Hit songwriter and producer in Nashville
Taperoom Music / Major Bob Music
Episode: Song Title Challenge #214: "Better Bad Ideas" w/ Hit Songwriter Andy Sheridan
Brooke Lee
Rising country artist and songwriter
Spirit Music Group; CAA (Creative Artists Agency)
Episode: Ep 524: Interview w/ Rising Country Star, Brooke Lee
Alex Miller
Recording Artist, Kentucky-based songwriter
Billy Jam Records
Episode: Song Title Challenge #213: "B.C." w/ Billy Jam Recording Artist, Alex Miller
Wayne Haun
Hit songwriter and award-winning producer in Christian and Gospel music; co-founder of Stowtown Records
Stowtown Records
Episode: Ep 523: Interview w/ Hit Songwriter & Hit Producer, Wayne Haun
Brian Greenway
Longtime guitarist of April Wine, current member involved in touring with Triumph
April Wine, Triumph
Episode: Ep 522: Interview with Brian Greenway From April Wine
Jeremy Spillman
Songwriter and novelist
Independent songwriter; novelist
Episode: Song Title Challenge #212: "A Little Ladder" w/ Jeremy Spillman
Shelacy Griffin
Senior Vice President of Music Knox and Promotion Coordinator for Hit Producer Michael Knox; Co-host/Production Coordinator on Knox Country 360
Music Knox / Michael Knox
Episode: Ep 521: Interview w/ Shalacy Griffin, Production Coordinator For Multi-Platinum Producer, Michael Knox
Chris Oglesby
BMG VP Head of Creative Nashville
BMG
Episode: Ep 520: Interview w/ Legendary BMG VP and Head of Creative, Chris Oglesby

Hosts

Brent Baxter
Co-host of The CLIMB; award-winning songwriter; involved in Songwriting Pro adventures.
Johnny Dwinell
Host of The CLIMB; Daredevil Production; music industry educator and producer.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 211 ratings
  • this aint it

    30min of ads, small talk, self-promotion, fb group reviewing, followed by 20 minutes of solid but not mind blowing advice :(

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    8botanical
    United States3 years ago
  • A Hobby vs A Career

    Johnny and Brent provide great advice and real-life examples of how to build a strategy that makes music your career!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Tracie Bauman
    United States4 years ago
  • Coachwrite

    I did a coach write and Brent was absolutely amazing. He taught me so much. It blows my mind how well it went! 5 star service

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    buddy lee dobberteen
    United States5 years ago
  • MORE THAN A PODCAST!

    The CLIMB is much more than a podcast but rather a community of like minded and musically passion driven people.

    The content is spot on with real life applications presented in a conversational manner between two friends sitting at a table grabbing lunch.

    I always learn something and find myself laughing at some point which keeps me engaged.

    I’m proud to be a CLIMB’er 😎

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Six string poet
    United States5 years ago
  • Class is in Session

    I listen to several songwriting podcasts. Many of them interview artists and songwriters and they are very valuable in that there is usually a nugget or value bomb coming...you just have to wait for it.

    With The C.L.I.M.B, class is ALWAYS in session from the word “Go”!

    There is no waiting and the podcast seems to be designed that way. People pay money for the lessons and information that Brent and Johnny give away. Not only for songwriters but also artists looking to get their product out there ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    B. Hacker
    United States5 years ago

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Ep 526: Interview with Artist Manager, Kris Rochester
Q: What is the key to avoiding a one-hit-wonder mindset and building long-term success?
Focus on building the foundation first: a clear plan, a repeatable process, and a team you can trust; virality should be a by-product of consistent, strategic work.
Ep 526: Interview with Artist Manager, Kris Rochester
Q: What does an artist manager do anyway for those listening?
It varies by artist, but managers juggle multiple roles—visionary, project coordinator, and foundation-builder—ensuring the artist has a sustainable plan and the right people around them.
Song Title Challenge #210: "The Almost Door" w/ Styles Haury
Q: What storytelling angles did you consider for turning 'The Almost Door' into a song?
They brainstormed multiple angles, including personal relationships, career near-misses, and historical anecdotes, ultimately leaning toward a motivational arc about taking action and perseverance.
Song Title Challenge #210: "The Almost Door" w/ Styles Haury
Q: How did the concept of The Almost Door start for you, Styles?
Styles explains he was drawn to the idea of near-misses and the emotional gravity of not taking action, which became a recurring mental image for crafting the song and its narrative.
Songwriting Pro's J.A.M. Session: Internal Pro vs External Pro
Q: Yes, what music video was Johnny Matt in, you ask?
Johnny Matt appeared as an extra in a video for Mackenzie O'Brien's song, helping out during a performance scene, and Brent acknowledged his contribution and support during the Q&A portion.

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What is The C.L.I.M.B. about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show focuses on practical strategies for songwriters, indie artists, and musicians to build leverage in the music business. Episodes frequently explore craft decisions, songwriting techniques, branding, publishing, artist development, and revenue opportunities in streaming, sync, and live performance. Guests include veteran songwriters, artists balancing day jobs with music careers, managers, and industry executives who share real-world experiences, tips, and behind-the-scenes perspectives. A standout trait is the collaborative, workshop-like format with actionable takeaways, guest spotlights on publishing and branding, and audience-driven Q&A that helps listeners translate lessons into tangible results. The show consistently highlight... more

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2. Andy Sheridan
3. Brooke Lee
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6. Brian Greenway
7. Jeremy Spillman
8. Shelacy Griffin

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