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The China in Africa Podcast

The China-Global South Project
China
Africa
United States
Global South
Critical Minerals
Belt and Road Initiative
China-Africa Relations
FOCAC
South China Sea
South Africa
Climate Change
Kenya
Zambia
Renewable Energy
BRICS
Philippines
Democratic Republic Of Congo
Geopolitics
Donald Trump
Indonesia

Twice-weekly discussion about China's engagement across Africa and the Global South hosted by journalist Eric Olander and Asia-Africa scholar Cobus van Staden in Johannesburg.

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China's engagement across Africa is increasingly shaped by both high-level geopolitics and competition in everyday markets. Somalia's renewed ties with Beijing are being driven in part by the Somaliland question, particularly its growing relationship... more

Kenya's crackdown on foreigners operating small businesses has put Chinese traders at the center of a wider debate over competition, immigration, and economic opportunity. President William Ruto's targeting of foreign merchants has raised concerns ab... more

China's influence in Africa's media landscape increasingly operates through content-sharing agreements, journalist training, paid placements, and support for local broadcasters. These "below-the-line" strategies give Chinese narratives a pathway into... more

China-Africa trade is surging and could top $400 billion this year, but the headline figure obscures a relationship that remains heavily concentrated among a small number of countries and increasingly tilted toward Chinese exports.

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Recent Guests

Emeka Umejei
Senior Research Associate, University of Johannesburg; visiting scholar at Academia Sinica
University of Johannesburg; Academia Sinica
Episode: Is China Decolonizing African Media or Expanding Its Influence?
Piwa Quere Mnando
Associate Director at the Center for African Studies, Howard University
Howard University
Episode: Africa Buys From China. What Can It Sell Back?
Huiyi Chen
Research and Coordination Analyst at Development Reimagined
Development Reimagined
Episode: Why Namibia's China Strategy Is Worth Watching
Ebenezer Obadare
Douglas Dillon Senior Fellow for Africa Studies at the Council on Foreign Relations
Council on Foreign Relations
Episode: China Is More Popular Than the U.S. in Africa. Here's Why
Ivor Ichikowitz
Head of The Ichikowitz Family Foundation, sponsor of the African Youth Survey
Ichikowitz Family Foundation
Episode: What Africa's Youth Really Want From China, the U.S. and Europe
Yu Jie
Senior Research Fellow at Chatham House in London
Chatham House
Episode: How China Wants to Rewrite Global Governance
Wei Shen
Senior research fellow at the Institute of Development Studies
Institute of Development Studies
Episode: Why Critical Minerals Alone Won't Make Countries Rich
Anabel Marín
Senior research fellow at the Institute of Development Studies
Institute of Development Studies
Episode: Why Critical Minerals Alone Won't Make Countries Rich
Jing Gu
Senior Research Fellow and Director of the Center for Rising Powers and Global Development
Institute of Development Studies, London
Episode: Africa's China Trade Challenge Isn't Market Access. It's Market Readiness.

Hosts

Eric Olander
Host of The China in Africa Podcast, China Global South Project (CGSP)
Cobus van Staden
CGSP's head of research; Co-host addressing Asia-Africa scholarship and CGSP research
Gérard Nima
Africa Editor, CGSP/Cynica Network; on-the-ground Africa perspectives on China-Africa dynamics

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 548 ratings
  • May 15 Discussion

    Excellent May 15 discussion. Ai will drain fresh water resources from many locations. We are giving it away and will soon learn that corporate control of water is trouble!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Terrilynr
    Canada4 months ago
  • Host quality differences

    I like Gerraud as a member of the team. And he leads some really interesting research on minerals. But he’s just not a very good host. I skip or fast forward through episodes with him alone talking to a guest.

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    lrhhrl
    United Statesa year ago
  • Overall feeback

    Insightful conversations speaking about today’s realities and challenging our thinking ! 👏🏻

    Apple Podcasts
    4
    Sakura.Suzette
    Belgiuma year ago
  • Good Information

    It’s likely to challenge some of your ideas, but the hosts make a real effort to get to the truth about PRC investments in Africa, along with those of the West.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Listener88888
    United States2 years ago
  • Great informative pod cast

    This is a great informative podcast. Can someone tell me did China Africa pod cast stop for a short time?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Chunkybutt72
    United Kingdom2 years ago

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A go-to resource for staying informed on China's role in Africa and global south diplomacy.
Occasional critiques about climate coverage or host balance, yet overall valuable for listeners.
Guests usually bring Global South perspectives; hosts sometimes perceived as US-centric by some listeners.
High-quality analysis with a strong focus on policy and tangible outcomes.
Insightful and rigorous discussions on Africa-China dynamics.

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Is China Decolonizing African Media or Expanding Its Influence?
Q: What motivated you to title the book around influence operations and decolonization?
The author explains that the title reflects investigating whether PRC media engagement in Africa represents genuine decolonization or simply a continuation of power dynamics under a different guise, focusing on how narratives are shaped and by whom.
How China Wants to Rewrite Global Governance
Q: Does China want to create a new Sinocentric Order that might not replace the United States as hegemon but place China closer to the center of global decision making?
Yu Jie argues that China seeks to leverage its normative power to craft new vocabulary and standards in global governance, while recognizing that tangible outcomes and resource commitments matter. She suggests a balance of aspirational leadership with pragmatic, targeted action, and cautions that expectations must be managed as the current system evolves.
How China Wants to Rewrite Global Governance
Q: Why was this white paper, in your view, important?
She identifies three reasons: it signals China's attempt to fill the space of global governance previously led by Western powers; it pushes for a holistic approach that includes participation by the Global South in setting rules; and it aims to reform rather than dismantle existing international architecture, positioning China more as a status quo power with a developing-country pathway to modernity.
How China Wants to Rewrite Global Governance
Q: Give us your reaction to it and how does it fit within this larger picture of trying to reshape international norms and governance?
Yu Jie explains that China is using the white paper to tentatively fill gaps in global governance, taking a holistic approach that involves the Global South, and emphasizes a move toward normative power and inclusive rules rather than dismantling the UN system. She notes that while there is nothing entirely new, the packaging signals a strategic shift toward broader participation and governance reform.
Former State Department Insider on Washington's Muddled Africa Policy
Q: What was the underlying strategy for Africa under the Trump administration, and was there a coherent plan beyond episodic actions?
The guest suggests there was no overarching strategy; rather, policymakers relied on tactics without a durable framework, and strategic thinking often lagged behind episodic moves.

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The show offers in-depth discussions on China's engagement with Africa and the Global South, featuring expert guests who illuminate trade dynamics, governance, minerals, and development. Episodes frequently center on policy choices, multilateral diplomacy, and practical pathways for Africa to industrialize, diversify value chains, and participate more equitably in global markets. A notable pattern is evaluating Africa's agency amid great-power competition, with practical case studies from debt restructuring, FOCAC, and mineral supply chains. The format often pairs seasoned hosts with regionalists and scholars to translate complex geopolitics into actionable insights for policymakers, business leaders, and researchers. A standout trait is th... more

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