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The Art of Association

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Democracy
Stand Together
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Philanthropy

The Art of Association is a monthly podcast on big themes spanning philanthropy, civil society, and democracy in America – and the interplay between and among these areas. Following Tocqueville, the podcast presumes that the health of democracy depends far more than we realize on our ability to associate with each other in constructive ways. Doing this helps us solve problems we face together and,... more

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Yordanos Eyoel is the Founder and CEO of Keseb, a nonprofit helping to build a transnational civil society ecosystem that advances inclusive and resilient democracies. She joins host Daniel Stid on The Art of Association podcast to talk about democra... more

Hahrie Han is the Stavros Niarchos Foundation Professor of Political Science at Johns Hopkins University, where she served as the Inaugural Director of the SNF Agora Institute and is the Faculty Director of the P3 Research Lab. She joins The Art of A... more

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Liz Joyner is the Founder and President of The Village Square and Ash Hanson is the Creative Executive Officer for the Department of Public Transformation. They join Daniel Stid to talk about “An Invitation to a New Civic Future,” a ... more

Heather Gerken is the new President of the Ford Foundation. She joins The Art of Association podcast to discuss her leadership journey and her vision for how the Ford Foundation and other philanthropic organizations can promote democracy and the rule... more

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Recent Guests

Hahrie Han
Stavros Niarchos Foundation Professor of Political Science at Johns Hopkins University; inaugural director of the SNF Agora Institute and the P3 Lab
Johns Hopkins University
Episode: Hahrie Han of Johns Hopkins University on What Moves People to Act Together
Liz Joyner
Founder and President, The Village Square
The Village Square
Episode: Liz Joyner of The Village Square and Ash Hanson of Department of Public Transformation on “An Invitation to a New Civic Future”
Ash Hanson
Founder and CEO, Department of Public Transformation
Department of Public Transformation
Episode: Liz Joyner of The Village Square and Ash Hanson of Department of Public Transformation on “An Invitation to a New Civic Future”
Heather Gerken
President of the Ford Foundation
Ford Foundation
Episode: Heather Gerken of the Ford Foundation on Supporting Democracy and the Rule of Law
Brian Hooks
Chairman and CEO of Stand Together
Stand Together
Episode: Brian Hooks of Stand Together on Practicing Pluralism in Philanthropy

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Daniel Stid
Host of The Art of Association

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 9 ratings
  • Insightful, inspiring, refreshing, and encouraging!

    Thank you for your time and care to produce such a delightful conversation. I picked up several new frameworks that are immediately helpful in my work. Looking forward to the next podcast in this series!

    Apple Podcasts
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    CaraDBrook
    United States4 months ago

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Strength lies in bridging theory and on-the-ground impact, with credible guests and clear frameworks.
Insightful, well-structured conversations that surface practical takeaways for listeners.
Gives a thoughtful, constructive look at complex civic topics and philanthropy.

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Heather Gerken of the Ford Foundation on Supporting Democracy and the Rule of Law
Q: How did Heather Gerken describe the Ford Foundation's guiding principles as she stepped into the presidency?
She emphasized drawing from history, maintaining a nonpartisan stance, and choosing a strategic, high-impact approach to funding that supports democracy, rule of law, and civil society while engaging across the political spectrum.
Hahrie Han of Johns Hopkins University on What Moves People to Act Together
Q: How did your experience with Undivided influence your view of empathy and belonging in civic life?
Undivided demonstrated that creating a space of belonging, where people from diverse backgrounds engage in problem solving and mutual learning, can foster genuine empathy and co-created solutions, even when initial ideas about responses might be imperfect or controversial.
Hahrie Han of Johns Hopkins University on What Moves People to Act Together
Q: What originally drew you to the study of civic life and participation?
Growing up as the daughter of Korean immigrants in a largely apolitical family, Han described an accidental entry into activism in college, where organizing a protest revealed the power of collective action and the sense that people can shape a future together through shared effort.
Hahrie Han of Johns Hopkins University on What Moves People to Act Together
Q: Tell us about how you learned you were a MacArthur Fellow and what that experience was like.
The notification felt almost unreal; the two-step process involved a private call followed by a second, practical briefing, and the whole moment underscored how rapidly the world of philanthropy can engage with a scholar in meaningful, airtight ways.

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The show centers on philanthropy, civil society, and democracy in America, exploring how collaboration and voluntary association strengthen civic life. Across episodes, guests range from leading academics and philanthropic leaders to practitioners who build community (local and rural) and foster cross-ideological collaboration. Topics frequently cover how belonging, community spaces, and bottom-up initiatives drive durable democratic participation, with practical examples from funders, philanthropic networks, and civic organizations. The format often blends scholarly insight with real-world applications, highlighting invitation-based approaches to civic renewal, governance, and the role of philanthropy in safeguarding democratic norms. Note... more

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