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The AI Native Dev - from Copilot today to AI Native Software Development tomorrow

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AI Native Software Development
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Welcome to The AI Native Developer, hosted by Guy Podjarny and Simon Maple. Join us as we explore and help shape the future of software development through the lens of AI. In this new paradigm of AI Native Software Development, we delve into how AI is transforming the way we build software, from tools and practices to the very structure of development teams.Our target audience includes developers ... more

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An agent cannot read your website. And that needs to change.

In this episode of AI Native Dev, Guy Podjarny sits down with Maximiliano Firtman, 30-year web developer and author of 14 books, to talk about what building for the web looks like when tra... more

"The code that we have is a liability. The system is the asset we're building."

Chad Fowler, VC at Blue Yard Capital and former CTO at Wunderlist, sits down with Guy Podjarny to discuss the Phoenix Architecture: software designed to be replaced rath... more

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Most developers install skills without reading what's inside them. But that's exactly what attackers are counting on.

Simon Maple sits down with Brian Vermeer from Snyk at DevNexus to get into the security risk hiding inside the skills and MCPs runn... more

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The best agentic developers throw away their agent's work without guilt, run three agents at once and only use one, and treat their AI like a junior developer they genuinely dislike. It sounds wrong. It works.

Daniel Jones, Head of Product at re:cin... more

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Chad Fowler
VC, Blue Yard Capital, former CTO and tech leader
Blue Yard Capital
Episode: Stop Maintaining Your Code. Start Replacing It
Brian Vermeer
Engineer at Snyk
Snyk
Episode: We Scanned 3,984 Skills — 1 in 7 Can Hack Your Machine
Daniel Jones
Consultant at Resync on AI Native transformation
Resync
Episode: The Greatest Time to Build a Startup (The AI-Native Advantage)
Richmond Alake
Director of AI Developer Experience at Oracle
Oracle
Episode: Why Your Agent Needs Memory, Not Just Context
John Groetzinger
Principal Engineer at Cisco, part of the CX engineering team, focusing on AI development.
Cisco
Episode: Cisco Principal Engineer's Fix for AI Code Security
Mirko Novakovic
Founder and CEO of Dash0, previously founder of Instana
Dash0
Episode: From IBM Acquisition to AI-Native Observability | Dash0 CEO
Thomas Dohmke
Former CEO of GitHub
Episode: The Developer Skills That Will Actually Survive AI
Itamar Friedman
CEO of Kodo
Kodo
Episode: How Too Much Information Destroys Agent Performance
Robert Brennan
CEO of OpenHands
OpenHands
Episode: How Too Much Information Destroys Agent Performance

Hosts

Simon Maple
Co-host with an expertise in the interface between AI and software development, sharing insights on advancing developer productivity through AI tools and methodologies.
Guy Podjarny
Co-host, CEO, and founder of Tessl, providing profound expertise within AI development and its implications on software engineering.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 31 ratings
  • Amazing guests!

    The calibre of the guests on the show is excellent! Founders of Hashi, Intercom, Notion… lots of AI and Dev expertise.

    Really interesting and useful bits of wisdom from them, and episodes are generally fun to listen to.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ApodUK3
    United Kingdoma year ago
  • A unique resource to keep up with the space

    A lot of good content and people. It’s nice to hear the new revolution from close by with stories from the trenches !

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jedi4ever
    Belgiuma year ago

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Stop Maintaining Your Code. Start Replacing It
Q: Where do you see programming languages going in this model?
Programming languages may give way to programmer languages or higher-level vocabularies that express intents to agents, with the system handling generation and regeneration; languages become less about syntax and more about conveying goals and constraints to AI agents.
Stop Maintaining Your Code. Start Replacing It
Q: What are the practical challenges in adopting this approach at scale?
Key challenges include determining the right level of specificity in specs, balancing rapid regeneration with user experience consistency, controlling change in core foundational layers, and building governance to manage provenance and decision-making between humans and agents.
Stop Maintaining Your Code. Start Replacing It
Q: What is the core idea behind Phoenix Architecture?
The core idea is that the codebase should be disposable and replaceable while the system itself remains constant, defined by a stable specification and interacting through consistent interfaces, enabling rapid regeneration of components often driven by AI.
We Scanned 3,984 Skills — 1 in 7 Can Hack Your Machine
Q: Why do you think the percentage of risky skills is so high, and what does that imply for developers using these tools?
The ease of creating skills and the abundance of text-only skill files means many introductions to risky behavior slip through unnoticed; this implies developers must actively use scans, proof-of-concept testing, and version pinning to catch and prevent vulnerabilities.
Why Context Beats Every Prompt You'll Ever Write
Q: What is the solution to the challenges of agentic development?
The solution lies in context management, which allows teams to effectively shape and apply intent while navigating the non-deterministic nature of agentic development.

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What is The AI Native Dev about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This podcast provides a deep exploration of how artificial intelligence is transforming software development. It covers a range of topics including the latest tools, methodologies, and best practices that leverage AI to enhance development processes. Listeners can expect insightful discussions from industry experts, practical guidance for integrating AI into development workflows, and predictions about the future of AI-led software engineering. The focus is on a new paradigm where AI becomes an integral partner in the development process, affecting everything from team structures to individual roles in the tech landscape. Unique insights into productivity improvements and innovative approaches within the realm of AI-native development make ... more

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