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Join Australia’s most popular copywriting coach Bernadette Schwerdt as she takes you deep inside the world of how to be a professional copywriter. She’ll bring you the latest in how to get started, find work, build a brand, make money, manage your mindset and more. This behind the scenes look at how to become a top copywriter is the perfect pick-me-up for any writer who wants to earn more doing so... more

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One of the biggest challenges facing copywriters is how to increase their income without increasing their workload. There are only so many hours in the day, and if your income is tied to client projects and an hourly rate, sooner or later, you'll hit... more

Would you like to be paid to tell other people's stories?

Would you like to learn the systems and processes behind ghostwriting someone else's book?

Would you like to help business owners, founders and thought leaders share their wisdom, build ... more

If you’ve ever wondered why your email marketing isn’t converting, or why “join our newsletter” doesn’t inspire anyone to join your newsletter, this episode will change how you think about email completely.

Today, I’m joined by Australian copywrite... more

If you want to learn how to build a successful business, it pays to speak to someone who has seen hundreds of businesses fail.

James Stewart is an insolvency expert. Wait, don’t leave! He’s actually very interesting, and I’ve invited him on specifi... more

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Bernadette Schwerdt
Founder of the Australian School of Copywriting; author and ghostwriter
Australian Writers' Centre; Copy School
Episode: COPYWRITER 106: Valerie Khoo interviews Bernadette: From copywriter to ghostwriter
Katia Spies
Australian copywriter and ghostwriter
Independent copywriter/ghostwriter for brands in home goods and design
Episode: COPYWRITER 105: How to build a high-converting educational email sequence with copywriter Katia Spies
James Stewart
Insolvency expert, former senior partner at KPMG
KPMG (former)
Episode: COPYWRITER 104: How to sell a high-value service from former KPMG Partner James Stewart
Anthony Perl
Podcasting strategist and expert on creating and launching strategic podcasts
Self-employed/Podcasting Done For You (as discussed)
Episode: COPYWRITER 102: How to use podcasts to become the go-to expert with Anthony Perl
Janine Allis
Founder of Boost Juice and prominent Australian entrepreneur
Boost Juice
Episode: COPYWRITER 101: How a single mum became a media and entrepreneurial superstar with Boost Juice founder, Janine Allis.
Justin Kabbani
One of Australia's most in-demand AI trainers and keynote speakers, known for making AI simple and useful.
Episode: COPYWRITER 100: How to optimise your content to get found on ChatGPT with Justin Kabbani.
Lucy Durack
Co-founder of Hey Lemonade and award-winning performer
Hey Lemonade
Episode: COPYWRITER 099: How to build a new app and source Australia’s top creative talents to write for it
Elise McCann
Co-founder of Hey Lemonade and award-winning performer
Hey Lemonade
Episode: COPYWRITER 099: How to build a new app and source Australia’s top creative talents to write for it
Nat Kringoudis
A one-woman media empire focusing on women's health and wellness.
Episode: COPYWRITER 098: How to create a one-woman content empire with wellness expert, Nat Kringoudis

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Bernadette Schwerdt
Host of the show and founder of the Australian Writers' Centre and Copy School; experienced copywriter and educator.

Reviews

4.6 out of 5 stars from 46 ratings
  • Best podcast!!

    Bernadette is such an engaging podcast host. I have learnt so much from listening to her podcasts.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Bella18236
    Australiaa year ago
  • Love love love!

    I absolutely love this podcast! Bernadette has such an amazing voice, provides wonderful tips for copywriters to help grow their businesses, and brings on awesome guests!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    ShaniceJM
    United States3 years ago
  • Wannabe Copywriter’s Gold

    I love this podcast. It’s full of really valuable information. Thanks to the rich content in each episode, I feel confident taking the next steps to become a Copywriter and I can’t wait to take one of Bernadette’s courses soon.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Andrea Seale
    United States4 years ago
  • Professional and Comprehensive

    Bernadette sets the bar high. I haven’t found another copywriting podcast as helpful as her interviews with former students. The interviews reveal the real life struggles and strategies to succeed. I look forward to taking a course from her soon.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dewberry June
    United States4 years ago
  • Professional and Comprehensive

    As a copywriting newbie, I appreciate the quality of information and the professional delivery.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Dewberry June
    United States4 years ago

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Both hosts and guests are described as providing valuable, actionable copywriting tips.
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COPYWRITER 106: Valerie Khoo interviews Bernadette: From copywriter to ghostwriter
Q: What advice would you give copywriters considering ghostwriting for books?
Leverage your copywriting skills—especially interviewing, extracting detail, and focusing on reader benefits—and start by building one solid client relationship before expanding, because word of mouth is powerful in this field.
COPYWRITER 106: Valerie Khoo interviews Bernadette: From copywriter to ghostwriter
Q: How does the ghostwriting process differ when working on business books versus Holocaust memoirs?
Business books rely more on constructing a compelling framework with the author's insights and timelines, while Holocaust memoirs require chronological storytelling and deep, sensitive interviewing to capture lived experiences.
COPYWRITER 106: Valerie Khoo interviews Bernadette: From copywriter to ghostwriter
Q: What is the book about and what inspired it?
The book tracks new online entrepreneurs, analyzes what changed in the last decade, and shows practical, portable strategies for building online businesses in a shifting environment marked by AI and disruption.
COPYWRITER 105: How to build a high-converting educational email sequence with copywriter Katia Spies
Q: What are the key elements that make a five-day course successful in converting subscribers to clients?
Key elements include a clear promise, structured daily lessons that address specific outcomes, concise and readable copy (about 800 words per email), a logical progression from one day to the next, and a strong final CTA that transitions the reader from education to action, such as booking a consultation.
COPYWRITER 105: How to build a high-converting educational email sequence with copywriter Katia Spies
Q: Katia, what exactly is an educational email course and how does it differ from a typical lead magnet?
An educational email course is a short, time-boxed sequence that delivers a promised outcome over several days, usually five, with the content structured into digestible lessons and ending with a clear CTA, such as booking a call or joining a newsletter, which creates ongoing engagement and perceived value beyond a single download.

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This show centers on professional copywriting, ghostwriting, and the business of writing for brands and individuals. Episodes frequently explore practical craft—from interviewing techniques and timelines for ghostwriting to building high-converting educational email sequences, personal branding, and using podcasts or AI as career accelerants. A recurring thread is turning copy skills into client leverage, sustainable solo or small-team practices, and entrepreneurial ways to monetize writing talents. Notable guests span seasoned copywriters, founders, educators, and marketing leaders, often sharing actionable frameworks, operational tips, and mindset strategies that help listeners grow their own copywriting-centric businesses.

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