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Shannon's Lumber Industry Update

Shannon Rogers
Woodworking
Sustainability
Lumber Industry
Walnut
Pine
Hickory
Wood Toxicity
Composite Lumber
Catalpa
Eastern Cottonwood
Buckeye Wood
Maple
Teak
White Oak
Lumber
Narra
Wood Dust
Insulation
Yellow Birch
Tariffs

An 8/4, Kiln dried podcast all about lumber and your questions about it. Let's dispel some myths and broaden an understanding of this ancient industry and help us all become a little more wood savvy...woodier??

PublishesTwice monthlyEpisodes173Founded7 years ago
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Recent Guests

Mark Dubac
Urban lumber miller and Instagram influencer known as the Sarcastic Sawyer.
Windwood Milling
Episode: 144 Windwood LLC
David Barman
Owner of Epilogue Sawmill and collaborator with Mark Dubac
Epilogue Sawmill
Episode: 144 Windwood LLC
Bob Lennon
President and CEO of Thermalwood Canada
Thermalwood Canada
Episode: 142 - Thermalwood Canada
Shaun Preston
Director of Camp Small
Camp Small
Episode: 140 - Camp Small
Dan Edelman
Represents TimberHP, a company focused on wood fiber insulation.
TimberHP
Episode: 134 - TimberHP Wood Fiber Insulation
Nick Smith
Executive director of Healthy Forests and Public Affairs Director for the American Forest Resource Council
Healthy Forests
Episode: 130 - Healthy Forests
Brandon Long
Aerospace Structural Engineer with experience in woodworking
NASA (contractor)
Episode: 124 Wood Structure from a Rocket Scientist
Alex Croson
Host of the podcast Completely Arbitrary
Completely Arbitrary
Episode: 112 Completely Arbortrary
Casey Clapp
Host of the podcast Completely Arbitrary and professional arborist
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Episode: 112 Completely Arbortrary

Host

Shannon Rogers
Host of the Lumber Industry Update; combines industry knowledge with practical woodworking insights; appears as the primary on-air expert.

Reviews

4.9 out of 5 stars from 566 ratings
  • The podcast i spent 3 years to look for

    This and wood talk are fire. You should have t.h.e eddy horvath,mark g, and zz mark on the show🙏👍👍👍

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    fighting fashists fortheunion
    United Statesa month ago
  • I missed you.

    I recently want to build a gazebo from cedar. Being from KY originally, I didn’t think it would be a problem. Not a chance of getting cedar in Rapid City.

    I have yet to find a hardwood dealer either. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

    I get something from every episode, even though some of the information goes over my head.

    Keep up the good work.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SoDak Craftsman
    United States9 months ago
  • Yes

    A YouTuber recommended this podcast and I'm in love with it.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    gehcfhjjdjxskj
    United States2 years ago
  • I’m in love

    Shannon has the sweetest voice it is just so soothing

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ladybird912
    United States2 years ago
  • I don’t even need to be a wood worker this is just great

    Why have a review when the title (of said review) says it all

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sam I guess idk
    United States2 years ago

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Listeners praise the host's depth of lumber knowledge and clear explanations.
Guests and Q&A segments are perceived as practical and actionable for real-world projects.
Overall, the content is valued for its technical focus and accessibility for non-experts.
The show is a reliable resource for understanding wood movement and market trends.
Some listeners note the host can be very self-assured, with mixed reactions to the delivery.

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Apple Podcasts
#117
Canada/Leisure
Apple Podcasts
#44
Netherlands/Leisure

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173 - White Pine
Q: John asked about lumber sizing in Europe and how it differs from North America.
In Europe and Britain, many sizes are still given in millimeters and the terminology uses actual dimensions rather than nominal sizes, with terms like X-sizing indicating the source dimensions rather than a strict inch-based designation.
173 - White Pine
Q: Donovan asked why old growth forests have tighter growth rings compared to newer and tree farms.
Old growth forests tend to have tighter growth rings because trees grow more slowly under canopy competition and sunlight is limited, resulting in smaller, denser rings, with the rate of growth varying by canopy openness and climate.
171 Western Redcedar
Q: Julian asks about drying red oak for construction purposes and whether he should use a gentle, moisture-controlled kiln schedule similar to USDA T4 to D2 to avoid defects.
The host recommends a gentle schedule stopping around 12% moisture for construction lumber in Europe conventions, emphasizes not over-drying to prevent case hardening, and suggests matching schedules to the local regulatory equivalents (EUTR) while monitoring daily moisture loss to stay above about 2.5% per day during heating.
171 Western Redcedar
Q: JR asks about rounded edges on construction lumber and how plans account for edge rounding when cutting and joining boards.
The host explains that rounded edges (S4S or E4E) are primarily for safety and durability on job sites, and that plans often need adjustments for the loss of width or thickness due to those eased edges; when planning joinery, you may remove material from either the width or thickness to achieve a flush, square joint without the V-groove showing.
170 - Spalting
Q: John wrote in and said, can you please explain the spalting process?
The host explains that spalting is a fungal coloration of wood driven by moisture, temperature, oxygen, and time, typically occurring after a tree dies or is stressed, and that it can be encouraged or slowed by controlling the environment; drying the wood stops active spalting and freezes the pattern.

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A focused deep-dive into lumber, wood science, and practical woodworking topics driven by listener questions. Episodes cover wood species (like spalting, Madrone, Zelkova, Catalpa), lumber drying methods and history, market dynamics, urban salvage, and niche markets (driftwood, mass timber). The host leans into clear, layman-friendly explanations, real-world sourcing tips, and hands-on project guidance, often weaving in listener Q&As and personal anecdotes. The show stands out for its practical, knowledge-heavy approach to the lumber supply chain, wood movement, and sustainable sourcing, all delivered with a calm, approachable delivery that many woodworkers, builders, and enthusiasts likely find highly valuable.

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