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Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth

Moshe Amsel
Law Firms
Law Firm Growth
Marketing Strategies
Entrepreneurship
Law Firm Management
Business Growth
Marketing
Client Acquisition
Legal Marketing
Law Firm Marketing
Artificial Intelligence
Profitability
Generational Wealth
SEO
Hiring Practices
Personal Injury Law
Podcasting
Financial Planning
Social Media Marketing
Lead Generation

Small Law Firms often start from the practice of law and not as a business venture. This ends up causing the growth of the firm to be much longer and more painful than it needs to be. If you started a Law Firm with the intention of increasing your impact, freeing up your time and having all the money you will ever need then the strategies we discuss will be priceless for you. Profit with Law is a ... more

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Recent Guests

Travis Hoechlin
Co-founder and CEO of Rise Up Media with over a decade of experience helping law firms grow.
Rise Up Media
Episode: Boost Client Acquisition: 5 Keys to Marketing Success for Law Firms with Travis Hoechlin - 423
Jessica Lackey
Strategy and operations advisor with experience at McKinsey & Company and Nike and an MBA from Harvard Business School
Jessica Lackey Consulting
Episode: Stop Automating Work You Shouldn’t Be Doing
Len Ward
Founder of Comexus, an AI consulting and product development firm for law firms
Comexus
Episode: Why Every Law Firm NEEDS to Embrace AI
Lindsey Busfield
PMP-certified project manager, legal SEO expert, and host of the Personal Injury Marketing Minute podcast
Optimize My Firm
Episode: How to Get Your Law Firm Recommended by ChatGPT
Brita Long
AV-rated attorney; author of The Happier Attorney; flat-fee advocate
Unknown (Brita Long)
Episode: You're Leaving $1,500 a Day Unbilled
Sharon Means
CPA, integrator for professional service firms; fractional COO/Integrator
Sharon Means Business
Episode: How to Build an Operating System for a Growing Law Firm
Jonathan Stark
Former software developer turned pricing expert, author of Hourly Billing Is Nuts, host of Ditching Hourly
Ditching Hourly, Value Pricing Bootcamp
Episode: Hourly Billing is Backwards Logic - For Your Law Firm AND Your Clients
Brooke Lively
CEO and founder of Cathedral Capital, CFO and profitability strategist for law firms
Cathedral Capital / CalCap
Episode: The 6 Numbers Every Attorney Needs to Track To Grow Their Firm
Randa Prendergast
Attorney Whisperer, advisor to law firms
Streamlines Legal / Attorney Whisper
Episode: Doubling Your Firm’s Revenue Is Simple

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Moshe Amsel
Founder of Profit with Law, Profit First professional, advisor to law firm owners

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4.9 out of 5 stars from 119 ratings
  • Informative listen

    Moshe is a professional who knows what he is talking about. I can clearly tell he gets the struggles of law firms and comes in with a financial viewpoint of how to address some of the top problems. Worth a listen for any law firm owner.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Saumyabanker
    United States3 months ago
  • Podcast Guest Review

    As someone who has been on many podcasts and radio shows throughout the years, I have to say that Moshe’s ability to ask thoughtful questions and to listen intently is unmatched. Business owners, who frequently listen to this podcast are in for a treat, regardless of subject, as Moshe is able to pull out the most valuable and insightful responses from those he interviews.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    RGTHR33
    United States10 months ago
  • Moshe knows his stuff.

    Moshe has the background and experience to deliver actionable advice to move the solo firm owner toward a more sustainable future. He digs in deep with his guests to get the nuggets that drive value for the audience. Highly recommend.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BigShoulders66
    United States10 months ago
  • If you’re billing by the hour, listen to this show

    It was a delight to speak with Moshe on the pod about the insanity of trading time for money. He’s as strongly against it as I am, which is saying something :-)

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    jonathanstark
    United Statesa year ago
  • Great Podcast for any business

    The Profit with Law podcast is hands down one of the most practical, insightful, and actionable resources available for attorneys who want to stop running their firm like a job and start building it like a business.

    Moshe Amsel has a gift for cutting through the noise and zeroing in on what truly matters for law firm growth: profitability, systems, and mindset. He brings on top-notch guests who know what it takes to run a successful firm, and he’s not afraid to ask the hard questions that get t... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    wikkyyoga
    United Statesa year ago

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Stop Automating Work You Shouldn’t Be Doing
Q: How does somebody identify what that bottleneck is? Is there an exercise that they should be doing?
Lackey recommends starting with reliable financial numbers and applying the five whys to a problem such as not making enough money. Repeatedly asking why helps uncover the root cause and identify which business system is responsible.
Stop Automating Work You Shouldn’t Be Doing
Q: What are the three biggest issues or challenges you see when you come into a business?
Lackey says growing firms often lack a clear point of view and specific target clients, rely on a billable-hour model that limits profit, and lack a sustainable marketing and sales engine. These elements need to work together.
Why Every Law Firm NEEDS to Embrace AI
Q: What can a law firm do today to prepare for that, to plan for that? Like, do we know what the law firm agent will look like? Is there already, you know, one that's the front runner that we should start trying, investing in? Where are we in that process?
Ward recommends creating a data room for firm information and setting up a website AI chatbot that is actively trained and reviewed. He says these steps can help a firm prepare for future interactions between client and law firm AI agents.
Why Every Law Firm NEEDS to Embrace AI
Q: What's the opportunity that you see for legal? Your background is marketing, so it's obviously natural for you to be like, yeah, you can put out a ton of articles easily. You can do, but when it comes to law firms, how should they be viewing the opportunity with AI, and where should they, I guess, focus their efforts first?
Ward says consumer-facing firms should invest in their brand and create social media content that helps potential clients recognize and trust them. He expects AI to change lead generation, while the human connection will remain an important differentiator.
How to Get Your Law Firm Recommended by ChatGPT
Q: What is step one, step two, step three in the marketing journey for somebody who's trying to actually get the cases on their own without paying somebody else for it?
Busfield advises against investing in SEO when a market is too saturated, then recommends optimizing the Google Business Profile and steadily collecting reviews. She suggests adding detailed pages for each case type and creating useful, locally specific video and website content.

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Profit with Law: Profitable Law Firm Growth focuses on turning law practice into a scalable, profitable business. Episodes center on pricing, client acquisition, hiring and staffing, technology adoption, and disciplined operations to boost profitability and staffing efficiency. The host, with a strong background in business and accounting, frequently brings in guests from finance, marketing, leadership, and real estate investing to provide actionable frameworks for law firm owners. A standout element is the practical, systems-driven approach to growth—emphasizing KPI tracking, value-based pricing, and strategic hiring—along with real-world examples and workshops that help listeners implement repeatable processes. The show likely appeals to ... more

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