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Ladonna Humphrey
True Crime
Melissa Witt
Fraud
Oasis Of Northwest Arkansas
Cancer
FBI
Word Of Faith Fellowship
Mental Health
Rick Fernandez
Jason Bartlett
Harassment
Ohio
Domestic Violence
Facilitated Communication
Emotional Manipulation
Mariska Hargitay
Corruption
Tanya Fernandez
Court System

PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web. Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons PRETEND explains how and ... more

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This week, Javier stops by the Hot Mess Happy Hour Podcast and it didn't disappoint. It was a hot mess!

About Hot Mess Happy Hour:

Are you always running late? Do you leave things on top of your car and

drive off? You might be a hot mess too so th... more

My friend Johnathan Walton just launched a new show called Hardcore Con, and I had to share it with you.

Each episode, he breaks down a con story and the specific psychological tactics scammers use to pull it off. And this episode gets at something ... more

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Federal prosecutors say the man known as Rony Denis isn't Rony Denis at all.

The arrest finally came in the fall of 2025. Three years after the FBI raids. But the church is still operating. So my friend Jared Smith from the Heliocentric YouTube chan... more

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In Part 6, the FBI comes knocking.

Rony Denis and his top associates allegedly defrauded the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs and military veterans out of more than $23.5 million. The House of Prayer Bible Seminary looked like a school. Veterans ... more

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Recent Guests

Jared Smith
Host of Heliocentric YouTube channel
Heliocentric
Episode: Chain of Command part 7
Lynette Rosario
Former member who described a night of abuse in Florida trip
Coastal Courier interview description
Episode: Chain of Command part 6
Gladys Jordan
Mother of a victim; discussed abuse and conditions in the attic
Family member testimony
Episode: Chain of Command part 6
Gregory Ward
Veteran who was part of the Bible Seminary program and its fallout
US Army veteran, interviewed for the segment
Episode: Chain of Command part 6
Arlen Bredin
Former high-ranking figure who testified about the church's finances and control
House of Prayer leadership, former CEO on paper
Episode: Chain of Command part 6
Javier Leiva
Host of PRETEND, investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living
PRETEND / Creative Babble, LLC
Episode: The Lottery Curse with Murder: True Crime Stories
Victor Johanson
Former NTCC member who discussed the matchmaking and control dynamics
Former NTCC member
Episode: Chain of Command part 3
Marissa Giammanco
Twin sister of Elise, recounts family history and the raid
Episode: The Raid | From Deep Cover: The Family Man
Elise Giammanco
Twin sister, describes childhood, household dynamics, and aftermath
Episode: The Raid | From Deep Cover: The Family Man

Host

Javier Leiva
Host of PRETEND; investigative journalist guiding deep-dive true crime narratives.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 5.4k ratings
  • Liberal propaganda

    There’s nothing worse than leftist propaganda pushed as “journalism.” But when the pusher PRETENDS that’s not what he’s doing it’s lying and manipulation, a common tactic of far left radicals. He deceives with stories about maga grannies, ICE and Trump pardons while trying to say he’s just being a fair journalist. I’m sure others on the far left nod along, at home in their echo chamber. But the rest of the country living in reality is wondering where’s a story of Biden’s pardons? Corrupt people,... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    MylissaR
    United States20 days ago
  • Excellent journalism

    Javier does incredible investigations and reports on them so thoughtfully. He is completely engaging and entertaining, while also being very mindful of sensitive subjects and respectful with his interview subjects. I love listening to the podcast!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BobKat16
    United Statesa month ago
  • Outstanding journalism

    Wonderful host brings intriguing stories for his listeners to discover. This is thoughtful thoroughly investigated journalism! I’m an OG fan of this podcast! Keep up the great Javier!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Pookie Wines
    United Statesa month ago
  • Love this podcast

    5 stars

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    SherrieSDmom
    United Statesa month ago
  • Weekly go to

    One of the few podcasts I look forward to each week. Interesting well researched stories. Just wish they were more than 30 minutes each.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Raininindy
    United Statesa month ago

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Critiques often target ad pacing or perceived ad-heavy segments.
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Listeners praise storytelling and interviews; many say the host is respectful and curious.
Fans appreciate long-form, survivor-focused stories and the depth of investigations.

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#158
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#224
Canada/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#189
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#102
Colombia/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#115
Philippines/True Crime
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#127
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Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The Pests part 3 & 4 Revisited
Q: What happens on later on this month when, when you have to appear in front of court like what do you expect is going to happen?
We expect we're going to tell our side of the story, which is the only side of the story, by the way.
The Pests part 3 & 4 Revisited
Q: Do you think if Patrick and Nicky just stopped engaging with them, this would go away?
If they had done that more towards the beginning, that would be realistic that the trolls would get bored and move on.
The Pests part 3 & 4 Revisited
Q: How does this end?
It ends with us dead or then in prison, it doesn't end any other way.
Listener Reaction: Didn't See It Coming part 2
Q: What was your opinions about psychics prior to this?
Christine expresses her skepticism but acknowledges some inexplicable experiences with intuition.
Listener Reaction: Didn't See It Coming part 2
Q: Can you share that story?
Christine recounts an eerie experience with her children predicting an event concerning their daycare.

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Frequently Asked Questions About PRETEND

What is PRETEND about and what kind of topics does it cover?

- PRETEND is a true crime investigative series focused on deception, scams, and manipulation, with cinematic storytelling and ethical journalism that centers victims. Across recent episodes, the show investigates coercive control in high‑control groups, romance scam networks, and white‑collar fraud, often blending survivor testimony, expert context, and procedural details to expose how manipulation operates in online and offline spaces. Notable throughlines include the psychology of con artists, the mechanics of recruitment and financial control, and the ongoing challenge of holding perpetrators accountable without shaming victims. The show frequently ties individual cases to broader themes around power, money, and accountability, and tends... more

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2. Lynette Rosario
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4. Gregory Ward
5. Arlen Bredin
6. Javier Leiva
7. Victor Johanson
8. Marissa Giammanco

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