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Ladonna Humphrey
Gypsy Rose Blanchard
True Crime
Melissa Witt
Fraud
Oasis Of Northwest Arkansas
Cancer
FBI
Munchausen By Proxy
Word Of Faith Fellowship
Rick Fernandez
Mental Health
Jason Bartlett
Harassment
Ohio
Domestic Violence
Con Artists
Facilitated Communication
Tanya Fernandez
Emotional Manipulation

PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web. Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons PRETEND explains how and ... more

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When I was eight months old, I pulled a rice cooker full of boiling water and oil off the kitchen counter, and it spilled down the left side of my body. I still have the third-degree burn scars, but I have no memory of it happening. So I booked a ses... more

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Growing up Catholic in Miami, I heard all kinds of stories about Santeria. People talked about dead chickens on doorsteps, curses, and spirits taking over people’s bodies. Even the people who didn’t practice it all said the same thing: “I don’t belie... more

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According to police, Shelbey Fernandez ran a stalking campaign for years. She used burner numbers, fake accounts and fake 911 calls. She asked Google how detectives trace a texting app, how long a burner number lasts, and whether police can tell when... more

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A 19-year-old says members of his church held him down, choked him, and beat him for two hours, trying to cast out what they called his “homosexual demons.” That was in 2013. Thirteen years, a mistrial, and countless delays later, the minister accuse... more

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Recent Guests

Susan Fenston
Stalking case survivor who was close to Tanya during the investigation
Episode: The Stalker: Fit to Stand Trial? Part 24
Gypsy Rose Blanchard
Public figure and survivor of medical and psychological abuse
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Andrew Barbari
Friend of Javier Leiva who offers his perspective on the case
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Andrea Dunlop
Host of the Nobody Should Believe Me podcast
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Nancy Simpson
Host of The Toll podcast
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Sir Morbid X
YouTuber and true crime livestream host
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Audacious Audrey
Content creator who has made videos about Gypsy Rose
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Fancy Macelli
Content creator who discusses the Gypsy Rose case
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Rebecca Catalfu
Longtime PRETEND listener
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10

Host

Javier Leiva
Journalist and investigative true-crime host

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 5.6k ratings
  • New Shows?

    I really enjoy Javier, but are there going to be any new shows, or is it just the Gypsy series for the foreseeable future?

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Montana Susie
    United States9 days ago
  • New to Show

    Just became a huge fan via Gypsy Rose series, then Chain of Command. Great storytelling and Javier has an intuitive nose to drill down into the core of a topic or person. Just love the show, been sharing it out the wazooo!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    BillyMacMaster
    United States9 days ago
  • Genius

    Javier’s wit is fantastic and the way he balances both sides of the story is better than most

    Highly recommend

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    piggyd825
    United States12 days ago
  • Didn’t see it coming

    So, there can be no possible way to consider yourselves having busted up psychics but not realizing all religions are the same bunch of nonsense.

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Bellamammal
    United States14 days ago
  • Refreshing!

    I normally don’t leave reviews, but after being a very long time listener, I was completely stunned to hear Javier gets one star reviews. Javier’s approach is different and refreshing and although I am not interested in some of his stuff, I ALWAYS listen. His character studies span a huge range of subjects and he is always respectful of those he interviews. He does his research and is transparent. I cannot recommend this show highly enough. Keep it up Javier!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Fargo's Folly
    United States17 days ago

Listeners Say

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Some listeners find the host's delivery or interview follow-ups less incisive, and a few question the reporting's objectivity.
Listeners often praise Leiva's research, persistence, and ability to build absorbing, carefully reported stories.
Many appreciate interviews that ask difficult questions while treating subjects with respect and avoiding a hostile tone.
The Gypsy Rose series draws strong reactions: some listeners value its nuance, while others criticize its balance and conclusions.

Chart Rankings

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Apple Podcasts
#140
United States/True Crime
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#126
Canada/True Crime
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#176
United Kingdom/True Crime
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#129
France/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#188
Australia/True Crime
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#192
Italy/True Crime

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The Stalker: Fit to Stand Trial? Part 24
Q: Why can't Shelbey just admit that she did it 'cause she's been caught so red-handed?
Leiva explains that Shelbey cannot plead guilty while the court has found her incompetent, because a judge cannot accept a plea from someone who may not understand what they are admitting to.
The Stalker: Fit to Stand Trial? Part 24
Q: Do you feel like knowing what we know now that Tanya and Rick just really bought this whole story, hook, line, and sinker? Or do you think that they were involved?
Susan believes Tanya and Rick were unaware of the stalking and overwhelmed by it, while Brittni says she has doubts about Tanya but believes Rick was not involved.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Q: Do you love your mom? Do you miss your mom?
Gypsy says she loves her mother and can recognize her humanity in the early years, but she no longer misses her. She says she sometimes used to claim she missed her mother because she felt she was supposed to.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 10
Q: Why the violent death?
Andrew Barbari wonders why Gypsy and Nick chose a brutal murder when Dee Dee had health problems. Gypsy says she felt trapped and wanted freedom, while Nancy Simpson argues that Gypsy had other options.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, part 5
Q: How should we interpret size in this genetic deletion, and does a smaller deletion mean less impact?
Size alone is not determinative; two people can have the same deletion yet lead very different lives, so clinical significance depends on which genes are affected and how they interact with other factors.

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Frequently Asked Questions About PRETEND

What is PRETEND about and what kind of topics does it cover?

Investigative true-crime storytelling centered on deception, manipulation, and the complicated lives of people caught in high-profile cases. Journalist Javier Leiva builds long-form narratives from interviews, court and public records, archival material, and ongoing reporting, often returning to a case across multiple episodes. The coverage examines not only alleged offenders and crimes, but also how abuse, media attention, online communities, and public judgment shape the people involved.

Leiva is the recurring host, with occasional guest-led reports and conversations featuring people directly connected to a case, journalists, content creators, and subject-matter experts. The approach is distinctive for weighing competing accounts and exp... more

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Recent guests on PRETEND include:

1. Susan Fenston
2. Gypsy Rose Blanchard
3. Andrew Barbari
4. Andrea Dunlop
5. Nancy Simpson
6. Sir Morbid X
7. Audacious Audrey
8. Fancy Macelli

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