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Ladonna Humphrey
True Crime
Gypsy Rose Blanchard
Melissa Witt
Fraud
Oasis Of Northwest Arkansas
Cancer
FBI
Word Of Faith Fellowship
Rick Fernandez
Mental Health
Munchausen By Proxy
Jason Bartlett
Harassment
Ohio
Domestic Violence
Con Artists
Facilitated Communication
Tanya Fernandez
Emotional Manipulation

PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web. Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons PRETEND explains how and ... more

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A 19-year-old says members of his church held him down, choked him, and beat him for two hours, trying to cast out what they called his “homosexual demons.” That was in 2013. Thirteen years, a mistrial, and countless delays later, the minister accuse... more

When Gypsy Rose Blanchard was a little girl, the thing that comforted her most was her mother's touch. In the final episode of The Gypsy Rose Obsession, I ask Gypsy when that changed. I also track down the attorney who drew up a power of attorney for... more

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This week I'm handing the feed over to Andrea Dunlop and her show, Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea has spent years covering medical child abuse, and she came to the subject through her own family.

In 2019, Dr. John Cox, an ER physician at Children'... more

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When Gypsy Rose Blanchard announced she was pregnant, the internet opened an investigation. The woman who spent her childhood trapped inside her mother's medical lies was now raising a daughter of her own.

In this episode, I look at what the researc... more

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Recent Guests

Dr. John Cox
ER physician at Children's Hospital of Wisconsin, accused in LG case
Children's Hospital of Wisconsin
Episode: Nobody Should Believe Me: The Case of Dr. John Cox
Chrissy G.
The woman who called CPS on Gypsy Rose Blanchard
Unspecified (Louisiana resident)
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 9
Fancy Basile
Commentator referenced for skepticism about professional credentialing
Episode: BONUS: How Doctors Diagnose Medical Child Abuse
Fancy Miceli
Writer and actress who acquired rights to Gypsy's life story
Entertainment Industry (writer/actress)
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 7
The Other Javier Leiva
Esteemed correspondent/ collaborator discussed in the episode
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 7
Audacious Audrey
Content creator discussed in the episode
Independent creator
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 6
Kira Dineen
Licensed certified genetic counselor; host/producer of DNA Today
DNA Today
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, part 5
Fancy Maselli
Actress with contested producing background, involved in Gypsy story
Unclear (producing partner associated)
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 4
Christie Blanchard
Gypsy Blanchard's stepmother, connected with Gypsy's outside world
Blanchard family
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 4

Host

Javier Leiva
Host of PRETEND; investigative journalist known for ethical, in-depth storytelling and interviews with deception-focused subjects.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 5.5k ratings
  • Great Podcast

    This has become one of my favorite podcasts. The journalism is thorough, and reporting is top notch.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Sarah Olivia Harris
    United States18 days ago
  • Moved me enough to FINALLY LEAVE A REVIEW

    Javier I love this podcast. I love all your podcast. I’m a Plus subscriber. I think you do a really good job in reporting. Today the episode with Dr. Melville really touched a spot. I forgot we were even talking about Gypsy for a minute! I listen to Andrea‘s podcast as well.

    I’m not a medical child abuse survivor, but I have my own story. And I am almost 5 years sober, with lots of child, trauma therapy, and somatic therapy. I’ve come along myself and today’s episode….Had me laughing and crying... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Babyguysmom
    United States19 days ago
  • Gypsy

    I found this podcast only recently so am limiting this review to the Gypsy Rose Obsession. As my introduction to Javier and his “journalism”, I am very disappointed. He seems to almost crush on Gypsy and is just as manipulated by her as others - it’s almost farcical. In asking her about her racist and offensive prison calls, he actually leads her with the question- “do you think you were mirroring them” - meaning, just reflecting back what she thought her prison callers wanted to hear…. Ummmm, Y... more

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    LizzyDN
    United States19 days ago
  • M

    His research is not as top-notch as it used to be. That DUI conviction is not a good look!

    Apple Podcasts
    1
    Mimi5959n
    United States23 days ago
  • Great stories

    Listening to the Gypsy Rose series. It’s giving Brittany Spears vibes. People should just leave her alone

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    praxis78
    United Statesa month ago

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Listeners praise the rigorous, empathetic journalism and balanced interviewing.
Common feedback highlights the show's depth, ethics, and ability to reveal uncomfortable truths without sensationalism.
Many describe the host as thoughtful, tenacious, and engaging with credible storytelling.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#113
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#89
Canada/True Crime
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#150
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#123
Australia/True Crime
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#42
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#57
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The Gypsy Rose Obsession, part 5
Q: How should we interpret size in this genetic deletion, and does a smaller deletion mean less impact?
Size alone is not determinative; two people can have the same deletion yet lead very different lives, so clinical significance depends on which genes are affected and how they interact with other factors.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, part 5
Q: If Gypsy has a microdeletion, how does that relate to the signs people point to as Munchausen by Proxy?
A genetic condition can provide a 'palette' for creating believable symptoms, but it does not automatically justify or explain all abuse claims; the evidence needs to be evaluated separately from the diagnosis, with careful consideration of what is truly documented.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, part 5
Q: What about psychiatric and behavioral aspects? Do these people experience any of that?
There are psychiatric and behavioral problems that affect a small percentage of people with this microdeletion, and conditions like autism spectrum disorder, ADHD, and sleep disturbances can appear, but not uniformly among all individuals with the deletion.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 3
Q: Why was murder seen as the necessary option instead of running away?
Gypsy explains that she believed running away was not feasible at the time, and the plan evolved under pressure and manipulation from Nick over years, though she later reflects that it wasn't necessary and that better choices could have been made.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 3
Q: What was your intention, though?
The intention was to scare her; Gypsy did not believe she would actually pull the trigger because she knew it was a BB gun, not a real weapon.

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PRETEND is an investigative true-crime series focused on real people who lie for a living—con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their wake. Each episode blends thorough reporting with cinematic storytelling to unpack how deception operates, from financial schemes and phishing to social engineering and manipulation. The host, a journalist known for rigorous interviewing and balanced framing, guides conversations with insiders, victims, and experts to illuminate the psychology of persuasion without shaming those harmed. Across seasons, the show stands out for its ethical approach, storytelling variety (long investigations and stand-alone episodes), and its willingness to examine systemic harms behind complex scams and high-control ... more

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