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Ladonna Humphrey
True Crime
Melissa Witt
Fraud
Oasis Of Northwest Arkansas
Cancer
FBI
Word Of Faith Fellowship
Rick Fernandez
Mental Health
Jason Bartlett
Harassment
Ohio
Domestic Violence
Con Artists
Gypsy Rose Blanchard
Facilitated Communication
Tanya Fernandez
Emotional Manipulation
Mariska Hargitay

PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web. Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons PRETEND explains how and ... more

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According to the anti-Gypsy camp, they've found it. The smoking gun. Gypsy Rose Blanchard has a rare genetic disorder, a microdeletion on chromosome 1, and depending on who you ask online, that one word explains the feeding tube, the leukemia, the pa... more

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I sat down with Alaura and Amber from Into the Weeds, the podcast that first dug through the Gypsy Rose Blanchard FOIA files. I wanted their honest reaction to my microdeletion episode, including the part where they felt like I'd pitted them against ... more

According to the anti-Gypsy camp, they've got the receipts. Gypsy really had leukemia. She really needed that bone marrow treatment, and the feeding tube and the surgeries were all real and documented, not fabricated. Case closed, they say. Munchause... more

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It's like getting to the end of a movie and discovering the twist, then going back to the beginning because every scene means something else. That's what I've been doing all week with the Rick and Tanya Fernandez interviews. This time we're looking a... more

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Recent Guests

Fancy Maselli
Actress with contested producing background, involved in Gypsy story
Unclear (producing partner associated)
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 4
Christie Blanchard
Gypsy Blanchard's stepmother, connected with Gypsy's outside world
Blanchard family
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 4
Nick Godejohn
Defendant in the case and interview guest
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 3
Gypsy Rose Blanchard
Subject of the case and interviewee
PRETEND
Episode: The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Official Trailer
Shelby Danielle Fernandez
Adult daughter central to the stalking case and household dynamics
Fernandez family, as discussed in the episode
Episode: The Stalker: Police Say They Found Who Was Sending the Messages, Part 22
William Ruzich
Private intelligence operative who hunts fraudsters; shared his lived experience with his father's identity theft and his own work catching con artists
Independent investigator; private intelligence operative
Episode: He Turned His Own Father In. Then Built a Career Catching Con Artists.
Darnell Emanuel
Former army combat engineer, inner-circle member of Rony Denis/House of Prayer
House of Prayer / NTCC
Episode: Chain of Command: An Inside Man Speaks
Javier Leiva
Host of PRETEND, journalist
PRETEND (Creative Babble, LLC)
Episode: Javier Stops by the Hot Mess Happy Hour Podcast 🍸
Jared Smith
Host of Heliocentric YouTube channel
Heliocentric
Episode: Chain of Command part 7

Host

Javier Leiva
Host of PRETEND; investigative journalist known for ethical, in-depth storytelling and interviews with deception-focused subjects.

Reviews

4.7 out of 5 stars from 5.5k ratings
  • I always come back to this Podcast

    I work from home and I absorb a lot of investigative podcasts. I love content about quirky/different stories that can unfold as the narrative of the podcast is forming. I also love subjects where stories turn into places you didn’t expect. Time and time again I keep coming back to PRETEND. Javier’s storytelling is one of the most natural I’ve heard and I love how I feel like he’s telling me, personally, a crazy story over a few long coffee chats. I’ve loved The Stalker series, LaDonna and curren... more

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Harryhausen
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • I wait with baited breath for the Truth to be brought out, as a start I feel he may do this the just

    So for once, as lovely Nancy from @thetollpodcast, I will reserve all judgement u til this whole month long series comes out…. I know this may be in vain, however, I can’t wait and hopefully he will follow this addressing the new Prison calls ?

    Be blessed guys 1 I know we all are thinking this could be another fluff piece , but pls I know , give it time - he may explain even why he is addressing this the way he is .. for just the beginning ❤

    Furthermore,

    My psychiatric professor (student MH ... more

    Apple Podcasts
    3
    ckprankin30
    United Kingdoma month ago
  • It was a good podcast but now there's a ad break every 5 to 10 minutes and it's the same ad I can't handle that crap

    Podcast Addict
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    BeardedRingo
    a month ago
  • The work is done with care in every aspects

    Rigorous, diligent , empathetic work; journalism, communication and approaches. Always very surprising and informative episodes and series. Thank you

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    COBOU21
    Canada2 months ago
  • FAVORITE PODCAST IN WORLD

    Genuinely nothing like it, my mom played the Ladonna series in the car on a 17 hour road trip, we listened to the whole thing together and i still relisten to the ladonna series at least twice every year :) Love ur show Javier, and im excited for everything thats to come!

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    JanieJello
    United States2 months ago

Listeners Say

Key themes from listener reviews, highlighting what works and what could be improved about the show.

Listeners praise the rigorous, empathetic journalism and balanced interviewing.
Common feedback highlights the show's depth, ethics, and ability to reveal uncomfortable truths without sensationalism.
Many describe the host as thoughtful, tenacious, and engaging with credible storytelling.

Chart Rankings

How this podcast ranks in the Apple Podcasts, Spotify and YouTube charts.

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#112
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#118
Canada/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#164
United Kingdom/True Crime
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#124
Australia/True Crime
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#129
France/True Crime
Apple Podcasts
#226
Italy/True Crime

Talking Points

Recent interactions between the hosts and their guests.

The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 3
Q: Why was murder seen as the necessary option instead of running away?
Gypsy explains that she believed running away was not feasible at the time, and the plan evolved under pressure and manipulation from Nick over years, though she later reflects that it wasn't necessary and that better choices could have been made.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 3
Q: What was your intention, though?
The intention was to scare her; Gypsy did not believe she would actually pull the trigger because she knew it was a BB gun, not a real weapon.
The Gypsy Rose Obsession, Part 1
Q: Would you be game for an in-person interview to dive deeper into these questions?
Gypsy agrees, saying she would be down for that, which signals a potential in-person follow-up interview.
The Pests part 3 & 4 Revisited
Q: What happens on later on this month when, when you have to appear in front of court like what do you expect is going to happen?
We expect we're going to tell our side of the story, which is the only side of the story, by the way.
The Pests part 3 & 4 Revisited
Q: Do you think if Patrick and Nicky just stopped engaging with them, this would go away?
If they had done that more towards the beginning, that would be realistic that the trolls would get bored and move on.

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Frequently Asked Questions About PRETEND

What is PRETEND about and what kind of topics does it cover?

PRETEND is an investigative true-crime series focused on real people who lie for a living—con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their wake. Each episode blends thorough reporting with cinematic storytelling to unpack how deception operates, from financial schemes and phishing to social engineering and manipulation. The host, a journalist known for rigorous interviewing and balanced framing, guides conversations with insiders, victims, and experts to illuminate the psychology of persuasion without shaming those harmed. Across seasons, the show stands out for its ethical approach, storytelling variety (long investigations and stand-alone episodes), and its willingness to examine systemic harms behind complex scams and high-control ... more

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Recent guests on PRETEND include:

1. Fancy Maselli
2. Christie Blanchard
3. Nick Godejohn
4. Gypsy Rose Blanchard
5. Shelby Danielle Fernandez
6. William Ruzich
7. Darnell Emanuel
8. Javier Leiva

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