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Payments Strategy Show

Rainforest
Payments
Vertical Saas
Embedded Payments
Saas
Fintech
Customer Experience
Payment Processing
Proline
Rainforest
Embedded Finance
Payments Integration
Roofing Industry
Surcharging
Saas Companies
Revenue Growth
User Experience
Visa
Agentic Commerce
B2B Payments
Risk Management

When vertical SaaS platforms hear about the success of companies like Toast or Shopify at monetizing payments, it’s tempting to think they can just integrate payments and double their revenue overnight.

The reality is a bit more complex, and a lot of SaaS companies miss out on the full revenue potential because their payments product, positioning, or pricing is a little off.

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Embedding payments into a faith-based and mission-driven vertical isn't just a product decision, it's one that’s based around personal values. 

For vertical SaaS platforms serving nonprofits and churches, payments aren't about commerce. Every single... more

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Embedding payments successfully isn't just a product decision. It's a cultural one.

For vertical SaaS platforms looking to grow revenue through payments, understanding how to build the right culture, hire the right leader, and expand into embedded f... more

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At Rainforest, we answer hundreds of payments questions everyday. What's an ideal take rate for a healthcare platform with $200M in annual volume? Is 75% a good attach rate? What's a realistic goal for adoption?

The reality is that most vertical Saa... more

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Fleet payments represent over 10% of total US B2B card spend, yet most fintech companies have overlooked this massive opportunity. 

For vertical SaaS platforms serving the physical economy: HVAC, construction, transportation, plumbing — understandin... more

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Recent Guests

Brooke Smith
Leader of the 2026 Vertical SaaS Embedded Payments Benchmarking Study
Rainforest
Episode: What the 2026 Embedded Payments Benchmark reveals about vertical SaaS
Daniel Simon
Founder and CEO of Coast
Coast
Episode: Fleet payments and embedded fintech done right with Coast’s CEO Daniel Simon
Savannah Krieg
Head of Payments at EverHealth
EverHealth
Episode: From payments infrastructure to platform payments with Savannah Krieg
Pamela Draper
President of Digital Commerce Payments at Digital Commerce Group
Digital Commerce Group
Episode: What vSaaS leaders should know before expanding to Canada with Pamela Draper
Chris Shaw
Head of Go-To-Market Partnerships at Truemed
Truemed
Episode: Unlocking HSA/FSA payments for vertical SaaS with Truemed’s Chris Shaw
Itai Damti
Co-founder and CEO of Unit
Unit
Episode: What comes after payments: Embedded fintech with Unit's Itai Damti
Zaiaad Khan
Chief Revenue Officer at Dogpack
Dogpack
Episode: The PayFac Path: Hard-Won Payments Lessons with Zaiaad Khan
Taira Hall
Senior Vice President and Head of SMB Commercial
PayPal
Episode: Rainforest + PayPal: The future of embedded payments with Taira Hall
Ed Marshall
Partner at Arnold Golden Gregory, Fintech Committee Co-Chair
Arnold Golden Gregory
Episode: Payment aggregation and contract pitfalls with Edward Marshall and Theresa Kananen

Hosts

Joshua Silver
Host of the show; Rainforest founder and CEO; leads discussions on payments strategy for SaaS.
Becky Kopplin
Host/guest; VP of Payments at Rainforest; leads conversations on embedded payments in SaaS.
Theresa Kananen
Guest; partner at AGG; payment law, contracts, risk management expert.

Reviews

5.0 out of 5 stars from 30 ratings
  • Insightful and inspiring

    I’ve worked in embedded payments in for many years and love talking about all things related to it. This podcast is like having a conversation with all the experts. I always feel smarter and excited to implement new ideas after listening.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Ashfawn1234
    United States6 months ago
  • Insightful

    There are a ton of gold nuggets on payments for any vertical software platform.

    Apple Podcasts
    5
    Cayl2022
    United Statesa year ago

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Insightful and inspiring—feels like a conversation with payments experts.
Gold nuggets on payments for any vertical software platform.
Practical, actionable discussions that translate to real-world results.

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What the 2026 Embedded Payments Benchmark reveals about vertical SaaS
Q: What stood out when you analyzed adoption versus targets across the board?
There is a wide and persistent gap between target adoption (about 71% planned) and actual adoption (around 25%), with most verticals clustered well below their own targets.
What the 2026 Embedded Payments Benchmark reveals about vertical SaaS
Q: Tell us about the sample and what makes this benchmarking study unique.
The study surveyed hundreds of Vertical SaaS platforms with no incentives or bias toward any ecosystem, spanning nine verticals and an 'other' category to stay neutral and representative of the broader market.
The PayFac Path: Hard-Won Payments Lessons with Zaiaad Khan
Q: What role do AI and AI-driven branding play in your strategy?
He discusses Dogpack's AI characters and their licensing, emphasizing that AI can accelerate market engagement and test new GTM ideas. He argues for human guidance to ensure AI contributes constructively to business objectives and brand storytelling.
The PayFac Path: Hard-Won Payments Lessons with Zaiaad Khan
Q: How do you decide between PayFac Lite, PayFac, or managed PayFac for a software platform?
Zaiaad walks through a non-linear decision process, highlighting the economics, risk ownership, and strategic goals. He recounts negotiating constraints with legacy partners, and how ownership of risk and data, plus the ability to scale with internal risk teams or managed services, shapes the choice toward PayFac or PayFac Lite depending on where the platform wants to mature.
The PayFac Path: Hard-Won Payments Lessons with Zaiaad Khan
Q: What differentiates enabling payment acceptance from building a marketplace PayFac model like Dogpack?
The guest explains that Dogpack is an augmentation platform, not a replacement for existing channels. The PayFac-enabled backend supports one-tap checkout and personalized experiences within a marketplace-driven context, while maintaining control of the customer experience and data to drive growth for both merchants and brands.

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Frequently Asked Questions About Payments Strategy Show

What is Payments Strategy Show about and what kind of topics does it cover?

This show focuses on how vertical SaaS platforms monetize payments beyond a simple checkout, exploring pricing, product positioning, and GTM strategies that actually move the needle. Episodes typically feature SaaS leaders, payments executives, fintech founders, and legal/regulatory experts who share practical lessons on embedding payments, navigating PayFac options, compliance, risk, and cross-functional alignment. Listeners get real-world frameworks for sequencing payments features, selecting partners, and designing go-to-market motions that drive higher adoption, better unit economics, and enterprise value. Noteworthy angles include pragmatic governance and contracts, regulatory nuances across regions, and case studies from industries li... more

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1. Brooke Smith
2. Daniel Simon
3. Savannah Krieg
4. Pamela Draper
5. Chris Shaw
6. Itai Damti
7. Zaiaad Khan
8. Taira Hall

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